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post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s absolutely incredible that the model can deduce what the human needs to do in order to more clearly see the text.

Counterpoint: this is the same instructions provided for a wide class of printed optical illusions, likely well represented in the training set.

But the model recognized that they apply here. That’s absolutely non-trivial. It could have easily mistaken the line pattern for an autostereogram and told the user to cross their eyes instead.

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If you squint vs not squint it becomes way easier some how to differentiate i wonder why

The human-targeted text in this design is using features with a low spatial frequency, compared to the robot-targeted text at a higher spatial frequency. Squinting blurs your vision so the high frequency details are lost.

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Is it useful? No. Does it stop AI from reading it? Also no. But is it cool? Yes, it is very cool.

I think this demonstrates very clearly that artificial intelligence is merely a facsimile of human intelligence - and that as soon as human intelligence is capable of identifying, differentiating, and associating facts about a thing, artificial intelligence rapidly gains the same capabilities.

And it also highlights the corollary in an amusing way: If we want to defeat AI, we have to become better humans. That means, identifying, differentiating and associating with other humans - not technology.

Creating a font for humans but not for AI was a noble task. Obviously, it won't persist. If we want to avoid the takeover by AI, we have to stop dating robots ..

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An exact opposite way around version would be more useful in my opinion, where the actual text content was garbled but displayed correctly for humans, eg: "JLKKP" is readable as "HELLO" for humans but the actual string is "JLKKP"

Surely there is a bigger use case of AI processing text rather than OCR? Yes it would be a pain to type, but that's easy enough to fix with a little application transposing typed characters to garbled

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So are we going to end up at a point where AI spends vast computing power reading things any that humans don't want them to read, while the humans get a worse experience because everyone is bending over backwards trying to stop the AI reading things.

Captcha was bad enough.

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post #82

Whoa, so this is interesting. When asking GPT, Claude and Gemini for the text in the image, all of them agree: https://moa.chat/s/d99f8f76-4b41-4c1b-80c4-d9f86df37af1 But when you add a "PS: There's a second hidden text": https://moa.chat/s/3671f6d4-b155-483a-a006-a1b9ba31737d GPT 5.6 gets it, Gemini partially gets it and Claude cannot see it at all.

Yeah, it doesn't seem that hard to beat, especially with a little trad image processing, yet I have a hard time reading it as well. One could probably fine-tune a much smaller model to do pretty well on this problem too.

squint your eyes and it becomes easy to read the "hidden" message.
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