Many mindfulness practices seem to direct attention at two place at once, to quiet the inner voice. Perhaps this relates to more than just speech, but to attention itself. George Gurdjieff's "The Fourth Way" deals with self remembering, and his pupil, P. D. Ouspensky, has a very vivid description in [1] of how focusing on two things at once leads to a changed state of consciousness, that seems like meditation, and co…
EEG shows brain can simultaneous encode two speech streams
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Re: EEG shows brain can simultaneous encode two speech streams
#42This is maybe only tangentially relevant to the linked study, but I've noticed I can read aloud from a book on autopilot while thinking about other things or even thinking back on past conversations. I could not do this a few years ago, but now it happens on its own. I wonder how that relates to attention and speech streams
Not reading out loud, but I've caught myself a few times on reading and not processing that, because I was thinking about something else. Like I still did the reading, but straight to /dev/null of my brain
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Re: EEG shows brain can simultaneous encode two speech streams
#43Yes, and you can also write two different sentences using two different pens in your hands.
When my son was about 4 or 5 he used to draw pictures with pens in both hands simultaneously which I was always amazed he could do!
Sadly, I lost that super power at some point. I love a spicy curry, but I don't think I'd make it through a Hot Ones episode as a guest.
Does your son still have his ability?
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#44parents tend to yell at the same time and it needs simultaneous processing
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
Perhaps a dumb question but are they center panned (or mono, i.e. talking over each other) or is it split left ear/right ear when they come through the headset?
They are mono, but I was trying to say that with practice, you can process 2 independent audio streams simultaneously irrespective of whether they are mono or stereo. For example, I am able to keep track of 2 people talking at the same time. I obviously can't respond to both but can maintain independent contexts.
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#46Re: EEG shows brain can simultaneous encode two speech streams
#47If you couldn't process multiple streams ( audio/visual/other senses ) how would you ever be able to monitor the background for danger and context switch? There is a difference between conscious experience and what's going on in the background.
More specific from the mere ability to process multiple sensory streams in general.
Re: EEG shows brain can simultaneous encode two speech streams
#48If you couldn't process multiple streams ( audio/visual/other senses ) how would you ever be able to monitor the background for danger and context switch? There is a difference between conscious experience and what's going on in the background.
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#49If you couldn't process multiple streams ( audio/visual/other senses ) how would you ever be able to monitor the background for danger and context switch? There is a difference between conscious experience and what's going on in the background.
You can achieve the former, without the latter, by doing time slicing. Spending a small amount of time processing stream A, then dropping that and processing stream B for a moment, then swapping back. Just like how a single core CPU can process multiple threads.
Proving the brain is continuously processing and encoding multiple streams simultaneously is an interesting finding that helps us better understand how our brains handle multitasking. That’s absolutely something worth studying and understanding, even if the headline discovery “feels” obvious. It the precise mechanism that’s interesting, not the effect the mechanism produces.
Re: EEG shows brain can simultaneous encode two speech streams
#50If you couldn't process multiple streams ( audio/visual/other senses ) how would you ever be able to monitor the background for danger and context switch? There is a difference between conscious experience and what's going on in the background.
There’s a big difference between processing multiple streams, and processing multiple streams simultaneously. You can achieve the former, without the latter, by doing time slicing. Spending a small amount of time processing stream A, then dropping that and processing stream B for a moment, then swapping back. Just like how a single core CPU can process multiple threads. Proving the brain is continuously processing an…