Always nice to see that it still really struggles with the nuances of human movement and self-interaction. Especially when it comes to clothing overlapping.
$100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol
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Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol
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I'm amazed how easily people dismiss this. They used less that an hour of wall clock time and max $50 to do this. How much would it take for me to create videos like this? I'm guessing 1-4 years calendar time practicing half an hour every day just to break my lack of talent. Immeasurable cost given how there's no way in hell I'm going to invest that kind of time for a skill I don't actually want to acquire. Somebody…
That depends on your own standards to be honest. Here's a video from Meshuggah which is a camcorder recording of them emoting in a camper van - that's half an hour of work, a few hours of editing tops. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A_tSyJBsRQ My point is, anyone can make a music video on any budget or level of talent. And camcorder silliness is more artistic and entertaining than AI generated stuff any day of the…
I'm fine with AI music having AI videos.
https://www.youtube.com/@DementedVinyl
But I have never cared about a video when it comes to music.
Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol
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I would really love to see examples of creatives using modern AI/LLMs to make quality art, and it feels like this should be happening, but I can't think of any examples yet. Maybe there's so much low-effort slop that the good works are lost in the noise. Or maybe most artists don't use AI on principle. I would love to see examples if anyone has any. I saw a few things on r/AIVideos that I sort of liked, but I wouldn'…
The suno produced AI world cup country songs were far more exciting and viral than any of the “real” slop produced by the event https://youtube.com/shorts/xWziEfQxkyo?si=UEzIzVeUUFXEZvCS
They really slap for Social Media, but not real life.
Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol
#384The result depends mostly on two things: The first is the LLMs ability to come up with a good story, choose and prompt the video model, evaluate and editing. The other is the quality of the video models themselves.
The LLMs mostly used older video models from a year ago that are capped at 10 second single shot clips. Newer video models like Seedance 2 go up to 15 seconds (Seedance 2.5 even up to 30 seconds) and they support multimodal references.
As a tool, I think those video models can be pretty amazing for artists as you can create things not possible before. Here is a music video made by an artist using Seedance 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYfDJQxyHFg
Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol
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The problem with this discussion is we are conflating artistic value with economic value. A music video can be valuable as art, but it can also be valuable as a tool for promotion or for generating revenue. If the goal is pure economic efficiency then an AI has the potential to create a music video more efficiently than a human. If the goal is to produce something that makes people feel some kind of emotion then AI w…
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The physical limitations work with you, not against you. Have you ever read a book? The physical limitations is the blank paper, you need to be creative enough with the words you need to express for your vision to come to life.
Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol
#386Like most of this stuff, it's obviously impressive technology compared to what existed a few years ago. But the end product has zero artistic value. It's a grey goo of the average of every concept picked up from the concept of the song. A talented creative with a vision could make something more interesting and enjoyable in an afternoon with a $0 budget.
As much as I don't want jobs taken away by AI, a creative person with a vision that would usually required $1 million budget, could create such a video using AI by being very specific in what they require which would not be a " grey goo of the average of every concept " eg. "scene 32, same 2 characters from the previous scene, now dressed in the garb of Egyption middle kingdom high priests, though with cat faces, dan…
> eg. "scene 32, same 2 characters from the previous scene, now dressed in the garb of Egyption middle kingdom high priests, though with cat faces, dancing on the back of an elephant that is running fast with blurred feet on the surface of a river with licks of water that burst from the water in time with the music that I gave you before, length of song for this clip 2:21 to 2:31"
No need to even be so detailed: "Make this an ancient egypt theme" would probably work.
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Interesting, so the 'pure vision' of the director can remain unsullied by the inept crew, huh? :) More seriously, it reminds me of a video I was watching yesterday about a tabletop roleplay DM who was great at _telling_ stories but the players felt they were not included in the story. That is, the 'art' (if it is) of roleplay is collaborative between the storyteller and the players. Are movies not usually a collabora…
Multiple issues with this argument.
First you use crew and directors as holding dual use - one is collaborating on the idea itself. One is a necessary thing in the process. Crew is important primarily because they literally appear on screen. That they help collaborate is a good side effect.
AI still allows you to get collaborators for ideas and eliminates need that is usually a waste of time.
I get your point on using constraints in reality to make something sublime. Ironically it adds to my point rather than yours. Indie movies are generally considered more artistic than blockbusters. We realise that we shouldn’t don’t go out maxing things like scale and power. This doesn’t make a movie more artistic. So what remains? It’s the idea. The vision. AI lets you directly address this. What you suggest is adding fake physical constraints that we should surpass. Idk how that is artistic.
Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol
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Given that all serious artists seem to be extremely anti-AI, I strongly suspect that you may be wrong. I've been trying Fable for coding in the past week and while it's incrementally better than Opus sometimes, what it's churning out is still far from art - and I do think it's possible for code to be art.
If you're defining "serious artists" as some approximation of "people who have made money with their art" then it's clear that there's a conflict of interest here.
Now I happen to be in the camp that believes that AI on its own isn't really capable of producing art (but like a human creating a collage, there can be art created by humans using AI... there is artistic merit in the arrangement).
I still despise that AI is going to be used to strip creators of their labour value, but that's more related to my objection to capitalism than it is to AI.
Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol
#389Like most of this stuff, it's obviously impressive technology compared to what existed a few years ago. But the end product has zero artistic value. It's a grey goo of the average of every concept picked up from the concept of the song. A talented creative with a vision could make something more interesting and enjoyable in an afternoon with a $0 budget.
As much as I don't want jobs taken away by AI, a creative person with a vision that would usually required $1 million budget, could create such a video using AI by being very specific in what they require which would not be a " grey goo of the average of every concept " eg. "scene 32, same 2 characters from the previous scene, now dressed in the garb of Egyption middle kingdom high priests, though with cat faces, dan…
Have you ever experienced real artistic process? Because each and every comment from -presumedly- tech people that follow along these lines above is inevitably proof that the author does not grok creative processes at all, and they assume it’s just another algorithmic endeavor, or a collation of serial inputs.
This mentality is awful.
Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol
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A talented creative with a vision can now direct AI to build things that would have otherwise cost millions or been entirely impossible. I don’t understand the myopic view people have when it comes to this technology. Just three or four years ago, we saw the exact same skepticism with programming. People insisted it can't do this and it can't do that, but many of those things are possible today.
This tech isn’t steerable enough when it comes to creative output. Maybe there are some nooks and crannies where this tech can be employed and actually save time/budget. Maybe. But what does not work is to just take the output and use it. There is nowhere near enough precision there.
Yes today but the statements coming out of people are like as if the tech is static and not changing everyday. It was the same for programming it can't do this it can't do that till it is able to now.