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Digg Finally Admits the Auto-Bury Exists

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Re: Digg Finally Admits the Auto-Bury Exists

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Post by endtime »

cookiecaper wrote: post #10
endtime wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unmoderated forums quickly become dictatorships by the most insane. That is a pretty accurate description of reddit...I'm glad that HN has active moderation, even though it's rarely needed.

It's not far off of Wikipedia either. A large number of participants in my Wikiproject, including myself, were eventually burned out by dealing with a few too many highly obsessive and misinformed users. Seriously, go try to edit one the few somewhat-prominent WP articles that aren't locked and see how quickly someone comes up with a BS reason to revert your perfectly good edits. This happens especially often if you…

Haha, I don't have to try it to know not to mess with politics or religion on Wikiepdia. I don't bother reading those articles either, for the same reasons.

Re: Digg Finally Admits the Auto-Bury Exists

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Post by katz »

jwesley wrote: post #5

Digg is such a mess. The 1% of users who control the content and make up 50% of pageviews are completely at odds with where the owners want to take the site. There is so much payola going on behind the scenes. Not just on Digg, but Reddit, StumbleUpon, and any other social site that sends traffic. I'm talking armies of Indians and Eastern Europeans who do nothing all day but exchange votes and push stories. Eventuall…

"talking armies of Indians and Eastern Europeans"

The problem with Reddit is the army of intolerant atheists and the anti-GOP circle jerk. If you just take a look at the front page you will see that this is true. American politics is really not that interesting after the 10th GOP bashing blog-spam article.

Re: Digg Finally Admits the Auto-Bury Exists

#13

Post by jwesley »

katz wrote: post #12
jwesley wrote: post #5

Digg is such a mess. The 1% of users who control the content and make up 50% of pageviews are completely at odds with where the owners want to take the site. There is so much payola going on behind the scenes. Not just on Digg, but Reddit, StumbleUpon, and any other social site that sends traffic. I'm talking armies of Indians and Eastern Europeans who do nothing all day but exchange votes and push stories. Eventuall…

"talking armies of Indians and Eastern Europeans" The problem with Reddit is the army of intolerant atheists and the anti-GOP circle jerk. If you just take a look at the front page you will see that this is true. American politics is really not that interesting after the 10th GOP bashing blog-spam article.

Most web communities are politically polarized in one way or the other. If you do not like the political stories, Reddit allows you to unsubscribe from the politics sub-Reddit. Or just don't visit the site.

Re: Digg Finally Admits the Auto-Bury Exists

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Post by unalone »

katz wrote: post #12
jwesley wrote: post #5

Digg is such a mess. The 1% of users who control the content and make up 50% of pageviews are completely at odds with where the owners want to take the site. There is so much payola going on behind the scenes. Not just on Digg, but Reddit, StumbleUpon, and any other social site that sends traffic. I'm talking armies of Indians and Eastern Europeans who do nothing all day but exchange votes and push stories. Eventuall…

"talking armies of Indians and Eastern Europeans" The problem with Reddit is the army of intolerant atheists and the anti-GOP circle jerk. If you just take a look at the front page you will see that this is true. American politics is really not that interesting after the 10th GOP bashing blog-spam article.

There's a fundamental difference: a slim group of Digg users push everything. On Reddit, the circlejerk is encouraged by the users. I've been a user for 3 years (just deleted my second account and banned the URL yesterday), and people like those posts. I upvoted a few myself before I felt it got out of hand.

A lot of people discover atheism and politics on Reddit, and it's wonderful for them because it's showing them new things. For everybody else it quickly becomes a problem. (It's a problem on HN too, to be fair: I've gotten into a few debates here with atheists who think religion is wholly awful, and their immediate reaction is often "if you don't hate all of religion, you're buying into a cult/a conspiracy".)

Re: Digg Finally Admits the Auto-Bury Exists

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Post by katz »

jwesley wrote: post #13
katz wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"talking armies of Indians and Eastern Europeans" The problem with Reddit is the army of intolerant atheists and the anti-GOP circle jerk. If you just take a look at the front page you will see that this is true. American politics is really not that interesting after the 10th GOP bashing blog-spam article.

Most web communities are politically polarized in one way or the other. If you do not like the political stories, Reddit allows you to unsubscribe from the politics sub-Reddit. Or just don't visit the site.

The problem is that most stories about atheism is not posted in the atheism subreddit. Most of those stories spill over into worldnews or math or science. Stuff about conservative american commentators gets labelled 'funny'.

"Or just don't visit the site."

That was the solution yes. YCnews is fairly tame and people are well mannered.

Re: Digg Finally Admits the Auto-Bury Exists

#16

Post by jrockway »

endtime wrote: post #11
cookiecaper wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not far off of Wikipedia either. A large number of participants in my Wikiproject, including myself, were eventually burned out by dealing with a few too many highly obsessive and misinformed users. Seriously, go try to edit one the few somewhat-prominent WP articles that aren't locked and see how quickly someone comes up with a BS reason to revert your perfectly good edits. This happens especially often if you…

Haha, I don't have to try it to know not to mess with politics or religion on Wikiepdia. I don't bother reading those articles either, for the same reasons.

+1.

I edit Wikipedia fairly regularly, and have never had anything reverted.

Actually, there was one time when I edited John Dvorak's page to call him a "gasbag". That was reverted pretty quickly, but he did mention the incident on his podcast (which was the point of making the edit). (Also, he is a gas bag. Thankfully I haven't heard about him for a few years now ;)

But really, no legitimate edits of mine have been reverted :)

Re: Digg Finally Admits the Auto-Bury Exists

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Post by jrockway »

ojbyrne wrote: post #6
tptacek wrote: post #2

Why is there drama about this? If pg had an auto-kill script for stories posted by me, would you care?

Not if he disclosed that fact.

I personally wouldn't care even if he kept it a secret.

I mean, it's a social news site. You have no right to be heard here. (You should hear the complaints I get when I delete comments from my blog. "Free speech!!1!!1". If you want to call me a dumbass, get your own blog. I hear they're free.)

Anyway, if the super-secret auto-kill ruins the site, I will go to one of the other one hundred million (or so). Otherwise, I don't really give a damn.

Re: Digg Finally Admits the Auto-Bury Exists

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Post by Devilboy »

About 30 minutes ago this story hit the front page of Digg. Now I can't find it anywhere...

X-Files theme song

The main thing that keeps me from loving Digg is that there's no way to block users and their submissions. If only I could block the small number of spammy accounts making up 60% of the front page - and then see the next most popular stories instead!

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