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$100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Like most of this stuff, it's obviously impressive technology compared to what existed a few years ago. But the end product has zero artistic value. It's a grey goo of the average of every concept picked up from the concept of the song. A talented creative with a vision could make something more interesting and enjoyable in an afternoon with a $0 budget.

As much as I don't want jobs taken away by AI, a creative person with a vision that would usually required $1 million budget, could create such a video using AI by being very specific in what they require which would not be a " grey goo of the average of every concept " eg. "scene 32, same 2 characters from the previous scene, now dressed in the garb of Egyption middle kingdom high priests, though with cat faces, dan…

Art isn't just the screenplay, or a prompt; it's the clash between reality and the intent (whether a location or practical set constraints), the individual skill of everyone involved, costume and prop department. And it may change during production. And effort. If it's easy, it's easily reproducible and not worth that much. And novelty, that's something current models aren't capable of. That's why Jarimoquai's Virtual Insanity video became popular. That's why practical effects are more impressive than CGI, even if they're jankier and hide behind clever camerawork.

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Are you sure this is not just a case of good VX has hard to spot? And you only notice the bad/cheap examples.

It's a case of the biggest blockbusters, with the biggest budgets, like the MCU movies or Fast and Furious and such, looking like crap vfx wise. Same for movies at every level. VFX can be more subtle (e.g. how Fincher uses it), but it's rare. The industry (which is separate from the technology) didn't mature, it enabled crappy effects to dominate.

> with the biggest budgets, like the MCU movies or Fast and Furious

Oh, I hundred percent believe it. But did they spend the money on the vfx?

For example 1917 or Nolan movies I think have great VFX https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bRZbsk_wuA (last part)

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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post #311

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As much as I don't want jobs taken away by AI, a creative person with a vision that would usually required $1 million budget, could create such a video using AI by being very specific in what they require which would not be a " grey goo of the average of every concept " eg. "scene 32, same 2 characters from the previous scene, now dressed in the garb of Egyption middle kingdom high priests, though with cat faces, dan…

Art isn't just the screenplay, or a prompt; it's the clash between reality and the intent (whether a location or practical set constraints), the individual skill of everyone involved, costume and prop department. And it may change during production. And effort. If it's easy, it's easily reproducible and not worth that much. And novelty, that's something current models aren't capable of. That's why Jarimoquai's Virtua…

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Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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post #257

Like most of this stuff, it's obviously impressive technology compared to what existed a few years ago. But the end product has zero artistic value. It's a grey goo of the average of every concept picked up from the concept of the song. A talented creative with a vision could make something more interesting and enjoyable in an afternoon with a $0 budget.

> It's a grey goo of the average of every concept picked up from the concept of the song.

All right, but that's what an average entertainment product looks like. All these new TV shows have exactly the same look and feel about them. The same actors playing the same roles over and over again.

People keep comparing AI to some kind of once in a lifetime genius instead of an average person in the field.

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Not a fan really. There are certainly uses for AI, but this is lacking something. Personally I think it works best as a filter or applying a style or effect that is difficult otherwise, or generating fancy ambient or abstract textures etc. People constantly think the music video I created for Zingara's Unlock Your Keys [1] is AI, but it really is just real footage all around, except for a handful of lines / pulse tex…

It's a strange experiment. Claude and GPT aren't generating the video. They're directing and editing it, and they request video from a generative video model using mainly text-to-video. Neither Claude nor GPT can actually watch video content, and the video model generates shoddy quality clips with artifacts, lack of consistency, and where actions aren't synced to the music. It would be very hard for anyone to make a…

Agree. It's pretty clear the purpose was not to take even a small step in the direction of musicality for llms or video models. More of a typical "agentic engineering setup" blog geared to a different type of professional

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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It remains godawful slop in every instance I've seen, no matter how expensive it would be to produce without AI.

I think this new one made with Seedance 2.5 is actually not too bad. https://x.com/BytePlusGlobal/status/2077321849806234080

Needs more cuts.

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Tangent: philosophically to me, art is inherently human. What makes art meaningful and impactful isn’t whether it looks good or cool. It’s the story of the artist, the context of the art itself, the hard work and struggle involved, the meaning represented by a human creating something very specific to their own personal context and taste. Or a mix of any of that. Can AI be used as a tool to help create art? Absolutel…

> philosophically to me, art is inherently human

The other side of it is that most humans can't produce art. I can't draw, rhyme, dance, act, etc.

> I realize art is completely subjective, so some person may find meaning in AI generated art. > But this garbage ain’t that.

These two statements are very conflicting. I'm sure you can find someone who thinks that The Centre Pompidou is full of genius pieces. I didn't enjoy it that much. So, it's exactly the same with AI.

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