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LM Studio Bionic: the AI agent for open models

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Re: LM Studio Bionic: the AI agent for open models

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No one involved in LLMs want to improve social progress. That is simply not part of the equasion.

Social progress is literally the story of labor saving devices. Creating more with less labor means a society of relative abundance, with more time for education, creativity, leisure and personal growth. Don't be fooled into thinking LLMs are any different to the tractor, the loom, the calculator, or shoe factories in the third world.

> Social progress is literally the story of labor saving devices.

Historically it was not. They are two mostly unrelated things. Creating more with less labor can mean the richest getting richer while middle class becomes poor and poor become hopelessly poor.

> Creating more with less labor means a society of relative abundance, with more time for education, creativity, leisure and personal growth.

It never meant that, this is fairly tale. We got 40 hours workweek rather then 80 hours workweek because of political movements and fights, not because of technology. Labor saving device, on itself, leads to two outcomes: you work as much as before, but produce more (cue all the burned out overworked ai coders) or you get unemployed desperately looking for new work.

Re: LM Studio Bionic: the AI agent for open models

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And? Is that a scandal?

Not a scandal ofc, but people use local models mostly for privacy and using a closed-source, VC-backed app that might change anything in the next update might not be best for privacy

Next update? Have you read their privacy policy?

https://lmstudio.ai/app-privacy

Re: LM Studio Bionic: the AI agent for open models

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Hey everyone! Yagil the founder of LM Studio here. If you want to take Bionic for a spin with GLM 5.2 / Kimi K2.6 / Kimi Coder K2.7, email your lmstudio.ai username to hn-jul16@lmstudio.ai and I'll load your account with some credits! Try it out for coding (in a "Code" project) and document creation / manipulation (in a "Work" project). In Work projects we have automatic checkpointing for every change the agent makes…

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Re: LM Studio Bionic: the AI agent for open models

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Why would I use this over any other harness? I suppose they're wrapping it all up in a nice package for enterprise, especially ones that want to control their LLM usage for cost and data security compared to the cloud frontier models.

There’s actually not a lot of good harnesses that aren’t slopped together python or JS codebases, which are actually model-agnostic and don’t do some really silly things like bloating the context, too much compaction etc. There is no way I’m running a python or JS agent which is probably vibe coded, it’s just too much risk from a security and supply chain standpoint.

https://github.com/pjlsergeant/byre can add small but very convenient layer around whichever agent you want, initially trapping it in a specific folder, but you can easily mount more, firewall it, bring in MCPs and skills, or whatever. It's unambiguously AI-assisted, but a very very great deal of thought and work has gone in to the design of it. Ask your favourite agent to review the code if you're skeptical.

Re: LM Studio Bionic: the AI agent for open models

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based on their apple intelligence demos they are optimizing their products for their core demo of 55-95 year old boomers who talk out loud to think and read every page of the nytimes. you are miles away from the US consumer product experience here.

Boomers were born up until 1965, so the youngest boomer is 61 this year. Please don't slur us older GenX as boomers.

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Re: LM Studio Bionic: the AI agent for open models

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I am aware of it, and I dabble with Unsloth Studio and use the llama-server approach. I would obviously prefer an open source, open weights stack. But I guess a paradox is that as long as there are open source options I could use, a solid agentic environment that I can use with my own open weights is something I might pay for, in a similar sort of way to paying for a Mac when I could use only Linux. If someone wanted…

I seriously don't understand the apple glazing. They are pretty much completely out of the picture and are one of the most anti consumer anti open-source companies. Yet developers STILL hope for Apple acquisitions and being saved... Or something like that... We have llama.cpp, vLLM, opencode, hermes and countless other mature great open source tools that don't require a anti-consumer company's hands in the jar.

I would guess it's because Apple are a hardware vendor that at least talks about privacy as a selling point.

The M series chips provide large amounts of GPU RAM so I think people can see a world where Apple sells local first, privacy focused, inference based on hardware sales.

LM Studio's strategy seems to fit that very well.

Re: LM Studio Bionic: the AI agent for open models

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This kind of thing just makes me think Apple will get to a point where they have good enough local models and good enough harnesses for doing things, and most normal people will just use them… Does the LLM become another interface to computing?

i agree. i believe that for most people on the street, for most tasks, a Chat GPT 3.5 era LLM is sufficient enough. sprinkle in tool calling and other things, and that becomes enough. if you can prioritize that level of a model on-device (baking it in etc), then you can bifurcate AI users between those unwilling to pay and those who are willing to pay A LOT for frontier model performance.

Anyone even a little bit serious will be paying either way. If not for the cloud models, then for hardware upgrades.

Re: LM Studio Bionic: the AI agent for open models

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I’m worried about the switch in business model here, which is part of the reason I just switched to LM Studio from Ollama. > use the largest frontier open source models through LM Studio Secure Cloud

To be fair, Ollama has been pushing their own cloud offering just as much.

For some of the latest big models (from Minimax, GLM, Kimi, etc.) even after months they still don't provide official downloadable versions, just their cloud one.

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