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Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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Post by thirtygeo »

wk_end wrote: post #462
thirtygeo wrote: post #373

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"(I’ve got a song still stuck in my head from a Canadian indie band that made its way onto my iPod via via and I’ve done all the searching in the world for the lyrics I remember and have never found the band. I love this that I’ve never found them!)" Try the HN hive mind! Can you remember a year, +/-? I'm hoping it will turn out to be Metric or The Murder Plans or The Constantines or.... Some other great 2000s Canadi…

The Constantines are amazing!

They once asked me if they could buy mushrooms from me, at a gig they played for a friend's art night.. I was not able to help them out

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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Post by thirtygeo »

devonsolomon wrote: post #514
thirtygeo wrote: post #373

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"(I’ve got a song still stuck in my head from a Canadian indie band that made its way onto my iPod via via and I’ve done all the searching in the world for the lyrics I remember and have never found the band. I love this that I’ve never found them!)" Try the HN hive mind! Can you remember a year, +/-? I'm hoping it will turn out to be Metric or The Murder Plans or The Constantines or.... Some other great 2000s Canadi…

I probably should have just included it in the post, because now I’m replying the same thing hoping someone finds it… I don’t think it’s BSS unless there are EPs from before what’s on Spotify. It was more punk rock than BSS, I think. From the other comment TLDR… Male singer; Something like Blockparty/ TV on The Radio, song lyric was (maybe) something about throwing away your newspaper / no bad news today

New Pornographers - The Fake Headlines?

"I wrote the news today in a tent outside the midway rides. And as my money flew, singing to their pockets, You could only know your shame knowing what the good ones do."

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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Post by fy20 »

carlosjobim wrote: post #334
carlosjobim wrote: post #269

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Apple and Steve Jobs were always taking about ripping your CDs to have your music on the iPod in their presentations to the public.

Down voters might want to read this open letter posted by Steve Jobs: https://web.archive.org/web/20070207234839/http://www.apple.... "To begin, it is useful to remember that all iPods play music that is free of any DRM and encoded in “open” licensable formats such as MP3 and AAC. iPod users can and do acquire their music from many sources, including CDs they own. Music on CDs can be easily imported into the freely-d…

I'd say Steve was actually wrong here. The move to streaming (which Apple had a big part in pushing, directly or indirectly), is actually what halted music privacy. Giving access to all music (I remember the big deal Apple made when they were finally able to sell The Beatles on iTunes), and making it easier than privacy is what stopped it.

He's right that DRM alone didn't stop it, but at the same time you can't really say it didn't help. If we could just download Spotify playlists and share DRM free files with out friends, there would be no reason to subscribe to Spotify on an ongoing basis.

Hollywood still hasn't figured that out, but given how little artists get paid, maybe that's what they haven't push for the same.

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Post by roryokane »

plastic-enjoyer wrote: post #233
parasti wrote: post #222

Spotify is fundamentally broken in a certain, unfixable way, IMO. I use it and have a subscription, but I dread opening their app and looking at the starting screen that shows the same artists I listened to twenty years ago in pointless blurbs like "presave this (you can't listen to it)", "jump back in (you literally already listened to it)", "your favorite artists (not according to you but according to us)". There i…

> There is no joy of discovery of new music that you haven't heard. I have my problems with Spotify, but this is not one of them. I discover new artists, or long forgotten artists, regularly - even some weird obscure shit like Tänzelcore. But I have to agree, that the magic of discovering new music is not the same as, for example, digging records in a record store or via obscure boards and platforms (remember FF-Shri…

If you liked FF-Shrine, there are some active successor sites. Search for Sitting on Clouds (which is like FFShrine’s Galbadia Hotel) and SquidBoard (a forum).

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Post by picofarad »

bitwize wrote: post #282
amelius wrote: post #254

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I miss the sharing of mixtapes (or even mix-CDs, later when burning them was possible). Right now if I want to share music with someone, I first have to check which streaming service they are on ...

I made a mix CD for my wife for her birthday last year. It was my interpretation of Cereal Killer's "Greatest Zukes Album", featuring "great artists that asphyxiated on their own vomit" that was mentioned in the 1995 movie Hackers. So to qualify for inclusion, the artist had to either have died of drug or alcohol overdose before September 1995 (when Hackers came out) or be a band one of whose principal members died i…

That's not available in stores!

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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Post by konart »

ValdikSS wrote: post #178
konart wrote: post #171

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Anime (an everything related) torrent sites are also pretty alive.

Oh no, these don't feel very well either, in a sense that there's only a few seeders of the older uploads, if at all, and by older I mean as old as just a few years old. I'm running my torrent preservation service, and many anime/jrock/jpop downloads start downloading only after weeks or months of waiting for a seeder. Groups and individuals who used to be active on the scene has switched elsewhere and retracted thei…

>ValdikSS

Oh god, well met by the way. Took me a while to realise who I'm taling to without a familiar userpic.

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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Post by konart »

mghackerlady wrote: post #339
konart wrote: post #169

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This is very far from truth unless you only listen freshs pop music. And even then it is easy to click a song only to receive "not available in your region".

no, I've found many an album on youtube that isn't anywhere else and was uploaded by a random guy 10 years ago

Yes, same can be said for Vkontakte, for example (thanks to its piracu police and user uploads)

But this is kind of a different story.

Likewise at somepoit Russia passed a law that made all soviet movies and cartoons public and obviously studios started using YT as their hostding platform.

But this is not a default case. Just a lucky coincidence.

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Post by fsflover »

ValdikSS wrote: post #145
omgmajk wrote: post #118

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I haven't used a public site since Suprnova so I don't know about the health of public p2p sites at all. The private side is absolutely not stagnant, new sites pop up all the time and you can still find all the niche stuff you want to find by just nudging the enthusiasts with requests. A lot of them seed from home, with humongous servers, and there are preservation programs going on in various places.

Yes, that's true, but the core reason there are private p2p sites is because you're most likely to get a DMCA violation letter from the watchdog company via your ISP or to you directly in the West. Even if it may be not a punishable offense, that still freaks out people, and they choose not to seed from home or use public websites which are scraped by DMCA watchdogs. I don't see much point in contributing to closed s…

> because you're most likely to get a DMCA violation letter

This is why I don't understand why I2P trackers that provide full anonymity do not get more attention.

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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Post by konart »

abc123abc123 wrote: post #216
konart wrote: post #169

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This is very far from truth unless you only listen freshs pop music. And even then it is easy to click a song only to receive "not available in your region".

What? I find plenty of jazz and classical music on youtube. yt-dlp -x is your friend. I find it amusing that youtube can be the source of my "pirated" music and get away with it. But the piratebay guys got their lives smashed to pieces. But that I guess, is our civilization today. One set of rules for politicians and corporations, and one set for the slaves.

See my sibling comment.

Yes, if the owner uploads somthing to yt and\or if the composition in public domain - it will be there. But that's it.

For example you have Netherlands Bach Society on Youtube. And I most likely can upload a rare Chaliapin's recording.

But:

- this one big "IF".

- this won't work same way for some rare Michael Jackson composition, for example.

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