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Re: The human-in-the-loop is tired

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Post by Barbing »

maxcoder3344 wrote: post #26
happytoexplain wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have such a hard time believing the implied premise of these complaints-about-complaints. Just say you don't mind AI writing - make that argument. Don't make this nonsensical, defeatist, "if it's common, stop criticizing it" argument.

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>Enjoy reading nothing ever again

Is it likely for AI written content of the HN front page to exceed 90%? Many would seek out the final 10%.

And wouldn’t you expect human and generated writing to be indistinguishable someday anyway in which case complaints should significantly drop off?

Re: The human-in-the-loop is tired

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Post by BugsJustFindMe »

verdverm wrote: post #38

Should we not get to work less if Ai is increasing productivity so much while also making us exhausted more quickly? Perhaps on the way to UBI and the end of labor, we could get a 32 and 24h work wweek with lots more vacation, my hope at least

Name one time in all of history when increased productivity translated to workers working less. I'll wait.

Re: The human-in-the-loop is tired

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Post by [deleted] »

maxcoder3344 wrote: post #31
_fs wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You created a new account for this?

No. I created an account for this. Hacker news used to be a place I could come read interesting content and peoples reactions and thoughts to it. now it's interesting articles with 100% of the comments whining that it's written by AI. Sad what hackernews has become

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Re: The human-in-the-loop is tired

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Post by Barbing »

akeck wrote: post #24

Reminds me of "The Animal is Tired" (2021) ( https://www.robinhobb.com/blog/archives/2021-05 )

> The animal is aging. Not surprising; I knew it would happen eventually, but I didn't make any provisions to deal with that eventuality. Somehow the reality crept up on me. And now it must be dealt with, day after day.

(only ~5 paragraphs left now so y’all might as well finish it :) )

Thanks, lots of hackers can use the reminder.

Re: The human-in-the-loop is tired

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Post by lelanthran »

hahahaa wrote: post #4
N_Lens wrote: post #2

While I appreciate and agree with the key points of the post, Claude's writing style fingerprints are all over it and I guess it's even more exhausting to read someone's AI written article.

I don't think it is AI, but I bet it has been through editing/review to match a corporate style. LLMs were trained on this.

> I don't think it is AI, but I bet it has been through editing/review to match a corporate style. LLMs were trained on this.

My standard reply to claims like this is: post a pre-2022 link with an LLM style that matches your claims.

Usually people claim "LLMs sound like the way they do because that's how people write". Your claim is only a little different: "LLMs sound like the way they do because that's how corporate writes".

You may be correct, but I'd still like to see a pre-2022 link confirming this.

Re: The human-in-the-loop is tired

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Post by lelanthran »

maxcoder3344 wrote: post #29
singingtoday wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If complaining is exhausting to you, then I recommend avoiding Internet comments.

Nah just whining about AI. At least it has given the hoards of uninteresting people something to comment on every single hackernews article now

> Nah just whining about AI. At least it has given the hoards of uninteresting people something to comment on every single hackernews article now

Don't worry about it; notice how people are still talking to uninteresting whiners like yourself :-)

(Did you not notice you were whining?)

Re: The human-in-the-loop is tired

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Post by johnfn »

onion2k wrote: post #46
ameliaquining wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's AI. https://www.pangram.com/history/09db86cf-37fb-4b27-94bf-a9f2...

If you switch on the 'Supporting Evidence' on that site, it seems to be basing it's opinion on three things: - Use a descriptive triad of "reviewing, directing, and course" (it incorrectly misunderstood 'course correcting'). That's not common in writing but humans do do it occasionally. - Using the word 'thoughtful'. I don't understand that as evidence of AI. - Using the words 'Book Apart' together, which would be a…

Pangram clearly says "Remember, our results aren’t based on this evidence." when you turn on supporting evidence.

Re: The human-in-the-loop is tired

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Post by bluefirebrand »

verdverm wrote: post #38

Should we not get to work less if Ai is increasing productivity so much while also making us exhausted more quickly? Perhaps on the way to UBI and the end of labor, we could get a 32 and 24h work wweek with lots more vacation, my hope at least

Instead of getting 25 hour weeks, half of us will be unemployed permanently and the other half will be working 50 hour weeks.

It's a really smart future that the wealthy business owners and investors are building for us.

Re: The human-in-the-loop is tired

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Post by Barbing »

maxcoder3344 wrote: post #31
_fs wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You created a new account for this?

No. I created an account for this. Hacker news used to be a place I could come read interesting content and peoples reactions and thoughts to it. now it's interesting articles with 100% of the comments whining that it's written by AI. Sad what hackernews has become

Finished the thread, <50% complaining about article I think

Re: The human-in-the-loop is tired

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Post by bluefirebrand »

BugsJustFindMe wrote: post #62
verdverm wrote: post #38

Should we not get to work less if Ai is increasing productivity so much while also making us exhausted more quickly? Perhaps on the way to UBI and the end of labor, we could get a 32 and 24h work wweek with lots more vacation, my hope at least

Name one time in all of history when increased productivity translated to workers working less. I'll wait.

Every single worker that has been laid off due to "increased AI productivity" is working less

As a broad historical trend? Maybe not

But fewer people working, right now? Absolutely

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