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$100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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I don't have a problem with AI and can't stand the anti-AI brigade, but... this is the worst thing I have ever seen in my life. This specific type of garbage is exactly what arms the anti-AI critics with valid arguments. We should really wait a few years for the technology to mature before releasing these kinds of projects into the cultural sphere.

Eh, I'd like to see YOU make a better music video for $100 or less!

Been done many times before. E.g. https://youtu.be/lLYD_-A_X5E?is=DqNgAGlosIXO9z3V

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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> Meaningful art is not mass-produced, generated content. Andy Warhol might disagree [1] (: (I realize that's not exactly apples-to-apples, but y'know.) Or there's "art is anything you can get away with," which I just mention to point out that this kind of issue ("what is art?") is not new. In some ways it seems like a good thing to get people, like you, riled up about these topics, arguing the merits of their point…

In these discussions, the concept of perceiving content gets intertwined with how content was made, because artists and creatives are usually more interested in how something was made. So unless these two concepts are separated, people will endlessly talk past each other assuming both sides hold the same fundamental beliefs. Claiming you made something by yourself, when in reality someone else made it (AI) is easy to…

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Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Literal music videos are still fun and a valid creative direction, e.g., Vance Joy's "Riptide": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJ_1HMAGb4k

Come on, that video is on another level. "All my friends are turning green" (shot of $1 bills), "she's been living on the highest shelf" (woman standing on Juliet balcony), "they come unstuck" (someone pulling twin pole popsicle apart) For contrast these have "ice cold" (shot of ice cubes), "got chucks on" (shot of shoes), "livin' it up in the city" (shot of city).

Those shots all matched the banality of Uptown Funk's lyrics.

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Tangent: philosophically to me, art is inherently human. What makes art meaningful and impactful isn’t whether it looks good or cool. It’s the story of the artist, the context of the art itself, the hard work and struggle involved, the meaning represented by a human creating something very specific to their own personal context and taste. Or a mix of any of that. Can AI be used as a tool to help create art? Absolutel…

> Meaningful art is not mass-produced, generated content. Andy Warhol might disagree [1] (: (I realize that's not exactly apples-to-apples, but y'know.) Or there's "art is anything you can get away with," which I just mention to point out that this kind of issue ("what is art?") is not new. In some ways it seems like a good thing to get people, like you, riled up about these topics, arguing the merits of their point…

That one took me back to high school art history. Agree, as much as I dislike AI generated art, it still is art. An Andy Warhol of today would could be making his screenprints using AI.

You really can't say, 'art should be this', 'art isn't that'. It's just art, it is what it is, people have a lot of emotions wrapped up in the art they like but it simply is what it is.

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Coincidence that both songs reference Michelle Pfeiffer or was that free connotation at work?

... This hit, that ice cold Michelle Pfeiffer, that white gold This one for them hood girls ... - https://genius.com/Mark-ronson-uptown-funk-lyrics

...

I just wanna, I just wanna know

If you're gonna, if you're gonna stay

I just gotta, I just gotta know

I can't have it, I can't have it any other way

I swear she's destined for the screen

Closest thing to Michelle Pfeiffer that you've ever seen, oh

...

- https://genius.com/Vance-joy-riptide-lyrics

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

#227

I don't have a problem with AI and can't stand the anti-AI brigade, but... this is the worst thing I have ever seen in my life. This specific type of garbage is exactly what arms the anti-AI critics with valid arguments. We should really wait a few years for the technology to mature before releasing these kinds of projects into the cultural sphere.

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Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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But they are not claiming that current models are better than humans but later developments might. Do you think that a descendant of a fish could be a playwright or put on a play?

Objectively no. Fish form animals have been around far longer than mammals and we've touched the moon.

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Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

#229

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> Meaningful art is not mass-produced, generated content. Andy Warhol might disagree [1] (: (I realize that's not exactly apples-to-apples, but y'know.) Or there's "art is anything you can get away with," which I just mention to point out that this kind of issue ("what is art?") is not new. In some ways it seems like a good thing to get people, like you, riled up about these topics, arguing the merits of their point…

In these discussions, the concept of perceiving content gets intertwined with how content was made, because artists and creatives are usually more interested in how something was made. So unless these two concepts are separated, people will endlessly talk past each other assuming both sides hold the same fundamental beliefs. Claiming you made something by yourself, when in reality someone else made it (AI) is easy to…

> the concept of perceiving content gets intertwined with how content was made

It reminds me also of the eternal "can we separate the art from the artist" debate, too. For instance, some people (myself included) find that their experience of some art that they previously enjoyed is soured when they learn that whoever made it is a Bad Person in some way. Neil Gaiman comes to mind as a recent example.

I think it goes beyond just creative people being more interested in the process behind the art. Even people who are more purely consumers care about where this thing that touches them came from. I think a person's experience of the art makes them feel closer to or entwined with that artist, even if they might be long-deceased. Or non-human?

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Nah, us fiends watch things like https://youtu.be/TuGg0aMO1NI?is=zFRpAeel1keKFbsb

French surealism is a very differnet thing that random LSD imagery.

You must be tons of fun at a dinner party
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