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The human-in-the-loop is tired

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Re: The human-in-the-loop is tired

#11
Relatable.

> with my colleague Douwe

Wait, meltano Douwe? Small world. Glad to see you're doing well. I always liked meltano.

> In an era when anyone can produce reasonable-looking UI

Identical looking slop? Every Claude-based vibe coded app looks identical.

> The fear of skill rot is legitimate. And the fear that if you don't go fast enough you'll be left behind is — while often overstated — not entirely unfounded.

You know what, that's OK. I just hit "OK" on LLM Scala code I _actually_ think is awful. It works. It's probably faster than the "pure" code I'd write by hand. The code I would write - as a FP and Scala/Elm/Haskell/... enjoyer - would actually be maintainable for humans, but LLMs struggle with it. But LLMs writing code for LLMs? Sure, have at it. Objectively lower barrier of entry.

> So if you're feeling overwhelmed, destabilized, simultaneously more productive and less happy, know that you're not alone.

But yes, I am indeed simultaneously more productive and less happy.

https://skaldmaps.com, my little side project, was only possible _because_ I was able to feed my real world knowledge about real estate, combined with GIS and SWE knowledge into various torment nexus... pardon me, LLM prompts.

Since I don't have the _time_ to write boilerplate react code (it's pepper and tomato season in Georgia, which _actually_ brings me joy), telling Claude/Codex/... how to write dbt models saves me time and I objectively get a lot more done, but it's not fun.

I guess that's also why I still enjoy blogging. You can't use LLMs for blogs without people noticing immediately. Shameless plug: https://chollinger.com/blog/

Enjoy my entirely human typos, since that's clearly rare these days.

Re: The human-in-the-loop is tired

#12

> The honest truth > That loss is real and it's worth naming I think I will not heed the first sentence and bear with this. What motivates people to do this? What do they get out of prompting Claude for some vapid "thought piece" and spamming it on the internet?

Clicks, views, attention. This blog is part of Pydantic's sales funnel.

Re: The human-in-the-loop is tired

#13

> The honest truth > That loss is real and it's worth naming I think I will not heed the first sentence and bear with this. What motivates people to do this? What do they get out of prompting Claude for some vapid "thought piece" and spamming it on the internet?

It's just as easy to do the second one as the first one.

Re: The human-in-the-loop is tired

#16

> The honest truth > That loss is real and it's worth naming I think I will not heed the first sentence and bear with this. What motivates people to do this? What do they get out of prompting Claude for some vapid "thought piece" and spamming it on the internet?

> That loss is real and it's worth naming

Yep classic Claude-ism.

The fact that this article was likely AI generated is the real load-bearing factor in this discussion. Or, as previous versions of Claude would say; it cuts through the heart of the issue.

Re: The human-in-the-loop is tired

#19
post #2

While I appreciate and agree with the key points of the post, Claude's writing style fingerprints are all over it and I guess it's even more exhausting to read someone's AI written article.

"It's not" - 3 matches Dashline - present Yes, it's AI-written

"It's not" only has two matches; the third is "It's noticable". The other two are a whole paragraph dedicated to "it's not X, it's Y" which is a little more than you'd normally expect.

Firefox doesn't seem to discriminate between em-dashes and hyphens using ctrl-F so I'm not sure about those.

Having said that the tone REEKS of AI generation, so meh.

Re: The human-in-the-loop is tired

#20
post #2

While I appreciate and agree with the key points of the post, Claude's writing style fingerprints are all over it and I guess it's even more exhausting to read someone's AI written article.

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I have such a hard time believing the implied premise of these complaints-about-complaints.

Just say you don't mind AI writing - make that argument. Don't make this nonsensical, defeatist, "if it's common, stop criticizing it" argument.

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