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800 Canadian wildfires burning as air quality alerts extend to US

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Re: 800 Canadian wildfires burning as air quality alerts extend to US

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700 miles away and we have the worse air quality in US. something something about everyone thinks they are safe on climate change until it shows up on your doorstep.

this is stage 1 of the ecological collapse. it's gonna get a lot worse, and sooner than people think.

How do you know its not stage 0.5 or stage 3? Genuinely want to understand if this is climate change driven or just apart of the cycle of boreal forest fires that have raged in northern Ontario for centuries.

Re: 800 Canadian wildfires burning as air quality alerts extend to US

#22
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Canada’s complete and total refusal to conduct proper forest management Care to say more? Have they been suppressing fires in the forest way out in the middle of nowhere for decades?

What does the middle of nowhere have to do with this? We have technology that allows us to fly. You fly out, conduct controlled burns, cut out bad growth, install firebreaks. This is not an unsolved for process. For whatever reason, it’s not happening and these fires are the result. People really need to stop thinking so one dimensionally about these kinds of problems.

But are they supposed to? For example I have heard it said that in the northeast US (New England, NY, NJ) the forests pretty much evolved around humans (and rarely lightning) burning them periodically to control undergrowth. Is the same true in central Ontario? If not, then nobody is "supposed" to be doing anything? Unless catastrophic massive fire cycles are just a thing that happens every 500 years or whatever in that region...?

It's one thing to claim that bad forest management and not climate change is responsible, but it's consistent with climate change, and there are many areas in the USA that have adopted better fire and forest management practices in recent years and are still burning like crazy in seasons when they historically did not burn.

Re: 800 Canadian wildfires burning as air quality alerts extend to US

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More hybrid war Wildfires in Spain, France and Canada starting at the same time just days after the NATO summit. 60 arsonists detained in France this year for 11000 French wildfires. Of the 67 new wildfires today in Canada 24 were known caused by man, 27 by natural causes and 16 undetermined. This means that even with this alert level, arsonists may be still provoking between a 36% and a 60% of the wildfires in Canad…

Ffs, just the dumbest comments in this thread.

Jumping from “caused by man” to arson is weapons grade stupidity.

Re: 800 Canadian wildfires burning as air quality alerts extend to US

#24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

this is stage 1 of the ecological collapse. it's gonna get a lot worse, and sooner than people think.

How do you know its not stage 0.5 or stage 3? Genuinely want to understand if this is climate change driven or just apart of the cycle of boreal forest fires that have raged in northern Ontario for centuries.

They don’t. If people actually believed this stuff they’d be learning how to hunt, get good with long guns, filter their own water etc. Revealed preferences always smash headlong into one’s imagination.

Re: 800 Canadian wildfires burning as air quality alerts extend to US

#25
Minneapolis is about 190nm south of the fires going on in the BWCA - with help of the Canadian fires just North of Ely. Smoke had visibility at our local (KFCM) airfield at 1 mile this morning from the smoke. IFR. I got to wonder if this is going to impact the Oshkosh airshow next week... as what we would travel up is not up for that type of visibility.

Re: 800 Canadian wildfires burning as air quality alerts extend to US

#26
post #12

More hybrid war Wildfires in Spain, France and Canada starting at the same time just days after the NATO summit. 60 arsonists detained in France this year for 11000 French wildfires. Of the 67 new wildfires today in Canada 24 were known caused by man, 27 by natural causes and 16 undetermined. This means that even with this alert level, arsonists may be still provoking between a 36% and a 60% of the wildfires in Canad…

Ffs, just the dumbest comments in this thread. Jumping from “caused by man” to arson is weapons grade stupidity.

Countries use a scale of wildfire risk

If there is a clear prohibition to use fire in some location today, because strong winds and low humidity create high risk of wildfires; and somebody still ignores the prohibition and start fire in five different locations in the worse conditions of the year, knowing well that every firefighter is busy yet on one of the other 800 wildfires active, would you still classify that as "accidental"?

Sometimes things are exactly what they seem to be. One barbecue that goes rogue with green level is an accident. With red level conditions, is a crime.

Re: 800 Canadian wildfires burning as air quality alerts extend to US

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post #6

Canadian here. Sky looked like Breaking Bad in real life. Also, before this week, I'd never seen the weather app show a yellow map before for air quality.

Eastern Canada, perhaps? Because B.C. wildfires have made Washington maps go to "very unhealthy" (AQI 201-300), so I'm sure B.C. was above that. (I'm not sure what "yellow" means where you're at. It's "healthy" according to https://www.airnow.gov/aqi/aqi-basics/ ).

And three years ago it was Washington and Oregon fires that were making the air unbreathable in Vancouver

Re: 800 Canadian wildfires burning as air quality alerts extend to US

#28
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eastern Canada, perhaps? Because B.C. wildfires have made Washington maps go to "very unhealthy" (AQI 201-300), so I'm sure B.C. was above that. (I'm not sure what "yellow" means where you're at. It's "healthy" according to https://www.airnow.gov/aqi/aqi-basics/ ).

And three years ago it was Washington and Oregon fires that were making the air unbreathable in Vancouver

That kind of international cooperation between the US and other countries is something we just don’t see anymore.

Re: 800 Canadian wildfires burning as air quality alerts extend to US

#29

As a Canuck, let me say sorry for having so many trees and not enough firefighters, for a second year in a row... at least we have to huff this stuff in before it gets to you, right?

dont debase yourself. that is not something to apologize for

Re: 800 Canadian wildfires burning as air quality alerts extend to US

#30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you know its not stage 0.5 or stage 3? Genuinely want to understand if this is climate change driven or just apart of the cycle of boreal forest fires that have raged in northern Ontario for centuries.

They don’t. If people actually believed this stuff they’d be learning how to hunt, get good with long guns, filter their own water etc. Revealed preferences always smash headlong into one’s imagination.

Underneath your sneering is a failure to understand how humans tend to act.
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