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Re: OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

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Tangentially related, but I work for a New Zealand company that does civil engineering work, including some in the US. There's a lot of localization that we have to do around roads being much wider and different materials being used, but the main idiosyncrasy is that in New Zealand we can just call people up on the phone or via email and arrange contracts, but for large jurisdictions in the US there is a competitive…

> the main idiosyncrasy is that in New Zealand we can just call people up on the phone or via email and arrange contracts, That sounds pretty corrupt. I've recently commented that countries with lower corruption perceptions probably have more corruption, and New Zealand is one of the lowest. Unless you're some kind of competitively approved supplier that's chosen by default because you consistently do good work. Why…

> That sounds pretty corrupt.

I live in Australia and Australia is not New Zealand... but this sounds exactly like what would happen in rural Australia - people in small towns still do handshake deals because you know and trust most people in town.

Not related to business deals but a family member was flying rurally in Australia maybe 15 years ago and joked about stabbing the pilot with a 4cm nail file. The airport security guy had a good laugh too.

Re: OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

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> the main idiosyncrasy is that in New Zealand we can just call people up on the phone or via email and arrange contracts, That sounds pretty corrupt. I've recently commented that countries with lower corruption perceptions probably have more corruption, and New Zealand is one of the lowest. Unless you're some kind of competitively approved supplier that's chosen by default because you consistently do good work. Why…

> That sounds pretty corrupt. I live in Australia and Australia is not New Zealand... but this sounds exactly like what would happen in rural Australia - people in small towns still do handshake deals because you know and trust most people in town. Not related to business deals but a family member was flying rurally in Australia maybe 15 years ago and joked about stabbing the pilot with a 4cm nail file. The airport s…

I met someone who told me they flew domestically with a licensed hunting rifle in NZ about 10 years ago and they were told to open carry the rifle onto the plane where the flight attendant locked it up.

Unrelated but Finnair's requirements for flying with doctoral swords are wonderful.

Re: OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

#323

I worked for OnePlus a few years ago, managing its Amazon account. The culture leaned heavily toward 996: 9 a.m. to 9 p.m., six days a week. I was there during a particularly tumultuous period, and by that point a lot of the staffing had already been hollowed out. That said, the OnePlus 11, 12, 13, and 15 are great phones. The 13 and 15 in particular have insane battery life. I have never managed to drain either one…

> The culture leaned heavily toward 996: 9 a.m. to 9 p.m., six days a week Why stay there even ONE week, unless you were very senior?

Hard work is invigorating? Especially when working on something cool?

Re: OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

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Nearly everyone on HN would be aware of the great seal of the United States? That thing I see on podiums and backdrops? That all formal diplomatic letters are still sealed with to this very day, without exception. Why would anyone here know this? We've probably all seen media depicting a medieval king pressing a seal into wax, but it doesn't mean we're familiar with it as a modern legal or procedural thing. Japan has…

Because there’s no reason to automatically assume the USA stopped using the great seal on the most formal stuff?

We see the president signing things into law on TV all the time: It's a signature. Nobody's sealing things other than Maker's Mark bourbon bottles anymore.

Re: OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

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> That sounds pretty corrupt. I live in Australia and Australia is not New Zealand... but this sounds exactly like what would happen in rural Australia - people in small towns still do handshake deals because you know and trust most people in town. Not related to business deals but a family member was flying rurally in Australia maybe 15 years ago and joked about stabbing the pilot with a 4cm nail file. The airport s…

I met someone who told me they flew domestically with a licensed hunting rifle in NZ about 10 years ago and they were told to open carry the rifle onto the plane where the flight attendant locked it up. Unrelated but Finnair's requirements for flying with doctoral swords are wonderful.

I'd believe it. In Australia, gun silencers (home made or otherwise) are absolutely illegal. In New Zealand no such limitations. A family member went to New Zealand maybe 15 years ago to somewhere suburban and found a few guys shooting animals in the distance - using silencers (I assume to not make too much noise for anyone nearby).

Re: OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

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Even reading through all the comments above yours I'm still in the dark. Everyone is talking about how they sabotaged their own business, and Carl Pei leaving, but none of that explains why specifically they aren't launching new products in Europe and the US (but still will in other parts of the world?) Something isn't quite adding up here.

Their nitch in the American market was selling high end devices for mid level prices, now that that is no longer the case, most people would rather get a Samsung for performance, a Pixel for it’s cameras or an iPhone for all of the above.

Yes, I got that from the comments. But it doesn't explain how they are continuing to sell in other markets. That's the confusing part.

Re: OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

#328

I worked for OnePlus a few years ago, managing its Amazon account. The culture leaned heavily toward 996: 9 a.m. to 9 p.m., six days a week. I was there during a particularly tumultuous period, and by that point a lot of the staffing had already been hollowed out. That said, the OnePlus 11, 12, 13, and 15 are great phones. The 13 and 15 in particular have insane battery life. I have never managed to drain either one…

Appreciate the insight. I'm really quite curious about the inverse of this from the US. HNers who don't live in the US but have worked for a US company trying to do business in local markets: what weird US-centric idiosyncrasies have you seen companies and US-based leadership foisting upon local markets?

Working for US companies is hilarious because they act like I don't have workers rights.

Re: OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

#329

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tangentially related, but I work for a New Zealand company that does civil engineering work, including some in the US. There's a lot of localization that we have to do around roads being much wider and different materials being used, but the main idiosyncrasy is that in New Zealand we can just call people up on the phone or via email and arrange contracts, but for large jurisdictions in the US there is a competitive…

> the main idiosyncrasy is that in New Zealand we can just call people up on the phone or via email and arrange contracts, That sounds pretty corrupt. I've recently commented that countries with lower corruption perceptions probably have more corruption, and New Zealand is one of the lowest. Unless you're some kind of competitively approved supplier that's chosen by default because you consistently do good work. Why…

How the hell else do you arrange a contract? Lawyers at 10 paces? What's so corrupt about directly communicating with someone gain agreement? This is confusing.

Re: OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

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> the main idiosyncrasy is that in New Zealand we can just call people up on the phone or via email and arrange contracts, That sounds pretty corrupt. I've recently commented that countries with lower corruption perceptions probably have more corruption, and New Zealand is one of the lowest. Unless you're some kind of competitively approved supplier that's chosen by default because you consistently do good work. Why…

> That sounds pretty corrupt. I live in Australia and Australia is not New Zealand... but this sounds exactly like what would happen in rural Australia - people in small towns still do handshake deals because you know and trust most people in town. Not related to business deals but a family member was flying rurally in Australia maybe 15 years ago and joked about stabbing the pilot with a 4cm nail file. The airport s…

So what happens if a new startup in the airport runway sinkhole calibration industry wants to bid on these deals?
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