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LM Studio Bionic: the AI agent for open models

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Re: LM Studio Bionic: the AI agent for open models

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post #14

This kind of thing just makes me think Apple will get to a point where they have good enough local models and good enough harnesses for doing things, and most normal people will just use them… Does the LLM become another interface to computing?

This question hinges on whether model advancement plateaus enough for machine sized models to compare to frontier performance. If it does, the answer is yes. If it doesn’t, the answer is no

Re: LM Studio Bionic: the AI agent for open models

#32

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And? Is that a scandal?

Not a scandal ofc, but people use local models mostly for privacy and using a closed-source, VC-backed app that might change anything in the next update might not be best for privacy

It also seems weird to be closed source and then market yourself as a tool designed for things that are open

Re: LM Studio Bionic: the AI agent for open models

#33

A friendly reminder that both LM Studio app and now this new LM Studio Bionic app are closed source. Since most people are unaware of this fact.

Yeah, we already have many open-source agent systems. If you prefer a UI, OpenCode itself has a beta desktop app.

I don't think we need closed-source developer tools, especially ones where they might restrict access if they decide to start charging for them later.

Re: LM Studio Bionic: the AI agent for open models

#34
post #3

I am not sure I get this. It seems on first glance like just another harness ...

Ultimately, the onus at every VC backed local LLM startup is to launch a cloud based offering, because that's the only potential path in sight for venture scale returns.

For now, it seems that direction that lm studio is taking for enterprise market is "local ai deployment support". They recently launched "lm link" which basically uses tailscale to create e2ee connections between computers running lm studio where you are logged in. Granted one can also setup tailscale or their own vpn themselves and use llama-server, but I guess it is simpler to provide it out of the box. In any case I am not sure pivoting from running local models to "cloud offering" (as in providing llm inference at their severs) is a sensible choice granted there is already competition in that space and they have no leverage there. The highest expected path imo would be to be bought by a company that makes (esp open weights) llms and has a similar business plan around enterprise contracts with local deployments.

Re: LM Studio Bionic: the AI agent for open models

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some people want to make money, others want to improve social progress. Happy to clarify which is who and who is which.

You can do both

You can do both, until you can't, and then usually making money trumps social progress.

Re: LM Studio Bionic: the AI agent for open models

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post #14

This kind of thing just makes me think Apple will get to a point where they have good enough local models and good enough harnesses for doing things, and most normal people will just use them… Does the LLM become another interface to computing?

This question hinges on whether model advancement plateaus enough for machine sized models to compare to frontier performance. If it does, the answer is yes. If it doesn’t, the answer is no

More likely, it's going to be whether frontier models advance enough that most people would be willing to pay for them. Right now they don't, but a model you can run locally for free on hardware you already own is very compelling because, while they're not as good as Frontier Models, they're still pretty good.

Tools like Opencode demonstrate that when you box them in tightly enough they can actually be pretty competent.

Re: LM Studio Bionic: the AI agent for open models

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

some people want to make money, others want to improve social progress. Happy to clarify which is who and who is which.

You can do both

Sure you can ... simply start by taking donations to benefit all mankind and then once you have done enough of that go private, ipo and join the tres commas club.
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