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Re: OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

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Post by baobabKoodaa »

MichaelZuo wrote: post #289
adamsmark wrote: post #264

I worked for OnePlus a few years ago, managing its Amazon account. The culture leaned heavily toward 996: 9 a.m. to 9 p.m., six days a week. I was there during a particularly tumultuous period, and by that point a lot of the staffing had already been hollowed out. That said, the OnePlus 11, 12, 13, and 15 are great phones. The 13 and 15 in particular have insane battery life. I have never managed to drain either one…

That doesnt make sense as an example. Nearly everyone on HN would be aware of the great seal of the United States? That all formal diplomatic letters are still sealed with to this very day, without exception. Maybe it’s just a mental shock that HQ would demand that level of formality for more mundane things?

Anecdotal counter example: I'm on HN and I have no idea what you're talking about.

Re: OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

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Post by try-working »

I worked at OPPO and OnePlus when OnePlus was being re-integrated into OPPO. It used to be its own org with a separate office, but the team was moved into the new OPPO office.

If you want to understand why OnePlus has been destroyed since then, there's a number of factos that I will just quickly list: OPPO was doing a large international push from 2019, and OnePlus was the little sub-brand that was more successful than it's mother brand. OnePlus was an international team, OPPO fully Chinese, with a CEO and the entire upper management not able to speak English. OnePlus continued to succeed while OPPO couldn't do good marketing. This was embarrassing, so of course OnePlus had to be downgraded. Pete Lau became OPPO CPO and decided that OnePlus should be a lower to mid brand, and the product was changed to reflect that. Lots of people left.

Ego, incompetent management that knew nothing about the world outside of China and terrible decisions that followed, led to the erosion of OnePlus.

It could have made them a real player internationally but they intentionally destroyed it.

Re: OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

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Post by koyote »

ricw wrote: post #185
MYEUHD wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> had specs maxxed out Indeed, their 10 year old flagship has 6GB of RAM. https://www.gsmarena.com/oneplus_3-7995.php (for comparison, last year's iPhone 17 has just 8GB or RAM, 9 years later)

Not an apples to apples comparison#. iOS uses way less ram than android, plus has memory compression. That’s why Apple gets away with less ram and much smaller batteries with equal or better performance. # pun intended

iPhones from that era constantly booted apps out of RAM when you toggled between them, making it really slow to have more than a few apps open at the same time.

These issues pretty much never happened with these big RAM android phones.

I know because I had both and it was night and day. Like going from a netbook to a desktop machine.

Re: OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

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Post by try-working »

adamsmark wrote: post #264

I worked for OnePlus a few years ago, managing its Amazon account. The culture leaned heavily toward 996: 9 a.m. to 9 p.m., six days a week. I was there during a particularly tumultuous period, and by that point a lot of the staffing had already been hollowed out. That said, the OnePlus 11, 12, 13, and 15 are great phones. The 13 and 15 in particular have insane battery life. I have never managed to drain either one…

I worked in the OPPO and OnePlus HQ in Shenzhen. When I had contracts to sign, I wrote my own signature and then I had to go to some procurement person and get them to stamp it with a seal.

Re: OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

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Post by mananaysiempre »

snozolli wrote: post #298
MichaelZuo wrote: post #289

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That doesnt make sense as an example. Nearly everyone on HN would be aware of the great seal of the United States? That all formal diplomatic letters are still sealed with to this very day, without exception. Maybe it’s just a mental shock that HQ would demand that level of formality for more mundane things?

Nearly everyone on HN would be aware of the great seal of the United States? That thing I see on podiums and backdrops? That all formal diplomatic letters are still sealed with to this very day, without exception. Why would anyone here know this? We've probably all seen media depicting a medieval king pressing a seal into wax, but it doesn't mean we're familiar with it as a modern legal or procedural thing. Japan has…

A hanko is specifically a stamp (for dipping into ink) not a seal (for pressing into wax) so it is a different thing than the ones diplomats still use. I assume the Chinese one mentioned in the ancestor post is a mistranslation and should have said “stamp” instead but maybe not—I mean, the historical large and small seal scripts are so named for their usage on signets so it’s not like there’s no precedent for seals in Chinese culture either.

Re: OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

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Post by try-working »

Anonyneko wrote: post #182
freedomben wrote: post #158

OnePlus is one of the saddest stories out there. It was the hacker's choice for a while. It was originally the "Never Settle" phone that ran mostly stock android, had specs maxxed out, price was great, and bootloader was unlocked plus they provided factory images. Those were all reasons I bought a lot of OnePlus phones in the early years. Then they flushed nearly all of it down the toilet. The day they stopped postin…

"Hacker's choice" phones don't appear to sell enough to justify the costs, although they can be a decent strategy for building the initial brand awareness. Financially speaking, OPPO was right to gut OnePlus all those years ago and streamline their production into selling the same models (with minor tweaks) under the brands that are more known in this or that region. Saves on hardware and software development costs a…

Absolutely not. OnePlus was more known and trusted outside China and should have been the flagship. OPPO has "the smell of factory girl" inside China and in SEA.

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adamsmark wrote: post #264

I worked for OnePlus a few years ago, managing its Amazon account. The culture leaned heavily toward 996: 9 a.m. to 9 p.m., six days a week. I was there during a particularly tumultuous period, and by that point a lot of the staffing had already been hollowed out. That said, the OnePlus 11, 12, 13, and 15 are great phones. The 13 and 15 in particular have insane battery life. I have never managed to drain either one…

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Re: OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

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Post by annzabelle »

jodacola wrote: post #290
adamsmark wrote: post #264

I worked for OnePlus a few years ago, managing its Amazon account. The culture leaned heavily toward 996: 9 a.m. to 9 p.m., six days a week. I was there during a particularly tumultuous period, and by that point a lot of the staffing had already been hollowed out. That said, the OnePlus 11, 12, 13, and 15 are great phones. The 13 and 15 in particular have insane battery life. I have never managed to drain either one…

Appreciate the insight. I'm really quite curious about the inverse of this from the US. HNers who don't live in the US but have worked for a US company trying to do business in local markets: what weird US-centric idiosyncrasies have you seen companies and US-based leadership foisting upon local markets?

Tangentially related, but I work for a New Zealand company that does civil engineering work, including some in the US. There's a lot of localization that we have to do around roads being much wider and different materials being used, but the main idiosyncrasy is that in New Zealand we can just call people up on the phone or via email and arrange contracts, but for large jurisdictions in the US there is a competitive bidding process that we (as a foreign company) can't just circumvent.

My boss wanted to investigate some sinkholes on the runway at LaGuardia to calibrate a device, and was confused that I (the token American) couldn't just call up the Port Authority of New York and get our truck of equipment onto a runway the same week. I tried to explain to a coworker that American airports and the Port Authority in particular are very sensitive about what they allow airside, and he said "oh, so we don't get hit by a plane." I had to explain the last 25 years of American history to him.

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