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$100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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The GPT ones are strange. The $25 fable one to me is subjectively better than the others. The $100 fable one is too literal and robotic. The jevons paradox is you need auteurs to curate vignettes or effects and cut or mask them in etc. That's not really different philosophically when software entered art in other ways. I could see errors/glitches lowering in time but I doubt there will be much acceleration.

As someone who has marketed music, shot music videos, directed music videos, cut music videos together from stock footage: you don’t need auteurs. You did back when MTV made songs big. No one actually pays attention to the details of music videos any more. It’s visual chewing gum at best. The reality is that now, if you have something half decent, nice colours, nice lighting and a wee bit of a story, no one is going…

> No one actually pays attention to the details of music videos any more. It’s visual chewing gum at best.

Hilarious to hear someone in industry blame their audience for the commodification of the medium. Is every industry like this? Surely nobody goes into creative fields thinking “I can’t wait to feed the masses slop!” Who’s killing our spirit?

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Unsure if it's just the way they prompted it / coded it, but the output is far too much a literal direct copy of the lyrics. The best music videos have a story arc on the theme of but often not litearlly the lyrics, and start with obscurity and reveal something (following all the literary/story mechanisms) Consider Amber Run - Found lyrics versus the video, and the story arc of the video https://www.youtube.com/watch…

Weird Al videos are often totally literal and extremely fun as a result. https://youtu.be/N9qYF9DZPdw?is=tU_8p-hDZv9gjAJ6

Wierd Al videos are a parody of an existing property. "White and Nerdy" is a parody of "Riding Dirty" by Chamillionaire, but the lyrics are about nerd stereotypes (as an intentional contrast with black culture as presented in the original,) and a great deal of creative effort is put into making those lyrics humorous while also fitting to the original theme. Nothing about Wierd Al's videos are "totally literal," certainly not in the sense of these AI videos, which are "literal" in the sense of "literally showing what the lyrics are describing."

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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AI videos as in remotion based videos look much better imo since it can code much better than it can prompt for videos with a coherent narrative https://youtu.be/uDAeAuYyl0E (parody of Claude announcements) https://youtu.be/cSsVNtGPOIg (recreating a fireship video)

So AI could generate a great lyrics video.

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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> None of the music videos were great Glad they acknowledge this. Curious how much time in addition to tokens this costs. If you have to spend $25 and wait 45 minutes to get a basically unwatchable video, I'm not worried about indie film makers being replaced just yet...

This wasn’t possible even a year ago, with the speed of things changing and how much money is spent on movies is there really a doubt that someone will be able to make $100 million movie for less than $1 million in token spend?

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Unsure if it's just the way they prompted it / coded it, but the output is far too much a literal direct copy of the lyrics. The best music videos have a story arc on the theme of but often not litearlly the lyrics, and start with obscurity and reveal something (following all the literary/story mechanisms) Consider Amber Run - Found lyrics versus the video, and the story arc of the video https://www.youtube.com/watch…

Fun fact (if you care): Back in the '90s, pretty much every music video produced in Azerbaijan literally matched the lyrics.

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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As a clanker-apologist I gotta say this is the strawman of AI slop brought to life. Letting the machine do literally everything without even supervision and see how it turns out? No surprise at all the results are so bad.

My fav AI video is still Post-Scarcity Blues from a year ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_t3h2AZ0KY There have been others I've enjoyed since then. But, that one stands out in memory. Work warning: it is occasionally just a bit spicy.

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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The GPT ones are strange. The $25 fable one to me is subjectively better than the others. The $100 fable one is too literal and robotic. The jevons paradox is you need auteurs to curate vignettes or effects and cut or mask them in etc. That's not really different philosophically when software entered art in other ways. I could see errors/glitches lowering in time but I doubt there will be much acceleration.

> need auteurs to curate vignettes or effects and cut or mask them in etc The problem is that reliable, repeatable professional-grade commercial art and design sensibilities happen in full-time careers. It’s entirely different than fine art, where intense self-exploration and experimentation are a very viable option. These tools are exacerbating an already difficult creative job market so there’s no reasonable path t…

The same thing is happening in software, I see the ladder pulled up and don't feel vulnerable as senior staff. If anything, we face a massive and increasing competency crisis in computing because there is a cult dumb enough to believe acceleration and doomer cases for LLMs.

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who has marketed music, shot music videos, directed music videos, cut music videos together from stock footage: you don’t need auteurs. You did back when MTV made songs big. No one actually pays attention to the details of music videos any more. It’s visual chewing gum at best. The reality is that now, if you have something half decent, nice colours, nice lighting and a wee bit of a story, no one is going…

> No one actually pays attention to the details of music videos any more. It’s visual chewing gum at best. Hilarious to hear someone in industry blame their audience for the commodification of the medium. Is every industry like this? Surely nobody goes into creative fields thinking “I can’t wait to feed the masses slop!” Who’s killing our spirit?

He's not wrong though. In the 80s I'd watch video shows and over the course of a week I'd probably see some videos 10 times. And it wasn't background filler - I'd actually be sitting in a chair/couch and watching the videos. Kids don't do this anymore. First many/most songs are made popular through TikTok memes, not videos. And videos really are mostly just played in the background as they do other stuff. No one is just tuning into Yo MTV Raps or Headbangers Ball anymore.
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