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OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

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Re: OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

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Can someone explain the reason? I think I understand the "WHAT". I don't understand the "WHY". Why are they not going to launch new products in US and EU?

Just a guess, but it probably has to do with their bullshit DMA meant to hobble western tech so they can attempt to compete. I don’t think it’s long before Apple pulls out as well, that DMA has cost them a LOT of money..

Re: OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

#292

Can someone explain the reason? I think I understand the "WHAT". I don't understand the "WHY". Why are they not going to launch new products in US and EU?

Even reading through all the comments above yours I'm still in the dark. Everyone is talking about how they sabotaged their own business, and Carl Pei leaving, but none of that explains why specifically they aren't launching new products in Europe and the US (but still will in other parts of the world?) Something isn't quite adding up here.

Their nitch in the American market was selling high end devices for mid level prices, now that that is no longer the case, most people would rather get a Samsung for performance, a Pixel for it’s cameras or an iPhone for all of the above.

Re: OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

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I worked for OnePlus a few years ago, managing its Amazon account. The culture leaned heavily toward 996: 9 a.m. to 9 p.m., six days a week. I was there during a particularly tumultuous period, and by that point a lot of the staffing had already been hollowed out. That said, the OnePlus 11, 12, 13, and 15 are great phones. The 13 and 15 in particular have insane battery life. I have never managed to drain either one…

How much of that internal tooling was related or shared with Oppo?

Re: OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

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Not an apples to apples comparison#. iOS uses way less ram than android, plus has memory compression. That’s why Apple gets away with less ram and much smaller batteries with equal or better performance. # pun intended

plus has memory compression. FYI, Android has had zRAM support since KitKat, which is from (checking notes) 2013. Same year as iOS. iOS uses way less ram than android Common measurements I have seen is around 40%, I wouldn't say way less, but it is definitely less. Still, 3x more for a model in the same year is impressive (and more than needed to be competitive with iOS) and we should give OnePlus credit for it. Sadl…

> FYI, Android has had zRAM support since KitKat, which is from (checking notes) 2013. Same year as iOS.

iOS compresses regular pages, it doesn't need to go through the swap system to compress/decompress them.

This imho should end up having better savings and performance. zswap when it gains support for non-swap usage may close the gap.

Re: OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

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I worked for OnePlus a few years ago, managing its Amazon account. The culture leaned heavily toward 996: 9 a.m. to 9 p.m., six days a week. I was there during a particularly tumultuous period, and by that point a lot of the staffing had already been hollowed out. That said, the OnePlus 11, 12, 13, and 15 are great phones. The 13 and 15 in particular have insane battery life. I have never managed to drain either one…

Appreciate the insight. I'm really quite curious about the inverse of this from the US. HNers who don't live in the US but have worked for a US company trying to do business in local markets: what weird US-centric idiosyncrasies have you seen companies and US-based leadership foisting upon local markets?

Thinking that they can fire people at will.

Re: OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

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> had specs maxxed out Indeed, their 10 year old flagship has 6GB of RAM. https://www.gsmarena.com/oneplus_3-7995.php (for comparison, last year's iPhone 17 has just 8GB or RAM, 9 years later)

Not an apples to apples comparison#. iOS uses way less ram than android, plus has memory compression. That’s why Apple gets away with less ram and much smaller batteries with equal or better performance. # pun intended

Akshully

Re: OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

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I worked for OnePlus a few years ago, managing its Amazon account. The culture leaned heavily toward 996: 9 a.m. to 9 p.m., six days a week. I was there during a particularly tumultuous period, and by that point a lot of the staffing had already been hollowed out. That said, the OnePlus 11, 12, 13, and 15 are great phones. The 13 and 15 in particular have insane battery life. I have never managed to drain either one…

That doesnt make sense as an example. Nearly everyone on HN would be aware of the great seal of the United States? That all formal diplomatic letters are still sealed with to this very day, without exception. Maybe it’s just a mental shock that HQ would demand that level of formality for more mundane things?

Nearly everyone on HN would be aware of the great seal of the United States?

That thing I see on podiums and backdrops?

That all formal diplomatic letters are still sealed with to this very day, without exception.

Why would anyone here know this?

We've probably all seen media depicting a medieval king pressing a seal into wax, but it doesn't mean we're familiar with it as a modern legal or procedural thing. Japan has what I assume is the same thing: hanko, a personalized, carved stamp. It's always a subject of surprise and novelty for North Americans who go there to teach English.

Re: OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

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"Hacker's choice" phones don't appear to sell enough to justify the costs, although they can be a decent strategy for building the initial brand awareness. Financially speaking, OPPO was right to gut OnePlus all those years ago and streamline their production into selling the same models (with minor tweaks) under the brands that are more known in this or that region. Saves on hardware and software development costs a…

Do these kinds of products have to sell as many units as a phone targeting the general population? I mean, most of the target audience will hear about a new release / iteration from blog posts, tech news sites, etc., so marketing doesn't need that much resources. Other than that, I guess it's also not necessary to fill every casual store like MediaMarkts, etc. because unlike my grandma, tech savvy people can order on…

The overhead of designing the actual phone and then setting up manufacturing processes and supply chains is pretty big. You definitely need to sell a lot to break even on that, especially considering that the unit margins aren't crazy.

Re: OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

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I worked for OnePlus a few years ago, managing its Amazon account. The culture leaned heavily toward 996: 9 a.m. to 9 p.m., six days a week. I was there during a particularly tumultuous period, and by that point a lot of the staffing had already been hollowed out. That said, the OnePlus 11, 12, 13, and 15 are great phones. The 13 and 15 in particular have insane battery life. I have never managed to drain either one…

Appreciate the insight. I'm really quite curious about the inverse of this from the US. HNers who don't live in the US but have worked for a US company trying to do business in local markets: what weird US-centric idiosyncrasies have you seen companies and US-based leadership foisting upon local markets?

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