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The lost joy of music piracy

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Post by trinsic2 »

devonsolomon wrote: post #112

The thing I miss most, and the thing we’ll never get back was the cultural buy-in and network effects. My music discovery then was different friend groups incrementally amassing large collections of albums in whatever sub-culture that friend groups had doubled down on. My iPod would be the culmination of my friendships. I would then fall in love with bands and albums and tracks on these albums without any influence b…

We get what we invest in. My feeling is there are other services to invest in like Bandcamp where at least you get an option to download a copy of the music. If people invest in Spotify with out thinking about the consequences then the the world we live in is exactly what we deserve. This same thing is happening with other form of art. Until people start making conscious decisions for world they want to create, the dark times will prevail.

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Post by weezing »

ValdikSS wrote: post #256
twelvechairs wrote: post #223

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Soulseek is still going strong last time i checked

Well they shadowban the accounts which share copyrighted content for which they receive copyright claims. It's a centralized service, they just configure you account to be invisible in the search results of others. And they don't check whether the file is really reachable. I've 'chmod 000' copyrighted files so they could not be downloaded (but still could be found in search), and Soulseek administrators were not happ…

creating new account is like 3 seconds, you don't even need to register in any way, you just create random username and password you never need again

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Post by stronglikedan »

I miss collecting all kinds of MP3s, burning them to CDs, labelling them, sometimes even printing out the CD artwork for them, organizing them in binders, and then never listening to them. I wish I had that kind of free time as an adult! I should check the garage...

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Post by no_time »

ValdikSS wrote: post #256
twelvechairs wrote: post #223

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Soulseek is still going strong last time i checked

Well they shadowban the accounts which share copyrighted content for which they receive copyright claims. It's a centralized service, they just configure you account to be invisible in the search results of others. And they don't check whether the file is really reachable. I've 'chmod 000' copyrighted files so they could not be downloaded (but still could be found in search), and Soulseek administrators were not happ…

Not doubting you but there are people with a quarter of a petabyte shared on slsk. I have a modest share of ~200GB, a good chunk of that from trigger happy record labels and never got banned. My client serves and average of 50-100 downloads a day no problem. So idk whats going wrong on your end.

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Post by raydev »

wasmitnetzen wrote: post #105
CoolestBeans wrote: post #56

One thing I miss about the iPod era is that Apple knew they were selling a device to play pirated music. It doesn't take much look at how much music an iPod could store, how much music cost, and how much people had in disposable income to spend on music to realize that music had to come from other means. The iPod and P2P file sharing were incredibly synergistic in a way that makes me giggle. The iTunes store is just…

Also iTunes Match, which legalized all of your pirated music[1]. [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2625967

In the early 2010s I uploaded an ALAC copy of an album through iTunes (and I guess iCloud Music???) that still has not appeared on any streaming service, and it remains accessible on any of my devices today. And now that my preferred streaming service is Apple Music, the album is accessible whenever/wherever I want.

When Apple gets something right, they really do get it right. A shame a lot of other aspects of Apple Music are bad or wrong.

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Post by digitaltrees »

I owned a recording studio and small label before Napster and lime wire. I know a ton of musicians that lost the joy of making music due to piracy. I am glad you had fun. But also take a little joy in the loss of that joy but some how it seems asymmetric in your benefit.

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Post by dyauspitr »

eisa01 wrote: post #51

It's important to remember that to this day, streaming sites do not have a full archive of the music out there. There is still a need for music piracy Even albums mentioned in the Norwegian business magazine D2 can be impossible to find in legit channels. Your only option is to buy used CDs on Discogs for 50-100 USD, or know your way around the successors of these sites These CDs weren’t even on Oink or What (or did…

The one pirate site I miss more than anything is demonoid. I could find just about anything on there. Is there anything similar now? What happened to all their archives once they were taken offline.

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Post by dyauspitr »

I kind of just stopped listening to music once I got past my early 30s unless it’s incidental. I just don’t have the desire to seek it out and listen to it anymore but I still enjoy music. Is this common?

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Post by devonsolomon »

monkeywork wrote: post #479
devonsolomon wrote: post #112

The thing I miss most, and the thing we’ll never get back was the cultural buy-in and network effects. My music discovery then was different friend groups incrementally amassing large collections of albums in whatever sub-culture that friend groups had doubled down on. My iPod would be the culmination of my friendships. I would then fall in love with bands and albums and tracks on these albums without any influence b…

>(I’ve got a song still stuck in my head from a Canadian indie band that made its way onto my iPod via via and I’ve done all the searching in the world for the lyrics I remember and have never found the band. I love this that I’ve never found them!) what were the lyrics you recall?

It was pretty alt-grungy (something like TV on The Radio or Blockparty at the time). Lyric I remember is from a song starting with something along the lines of: throw away your newspaper/ no more bad news today.
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