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Re: Grok Build is open source

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post #476

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Which part of that is made up?

the part where you claim they could “prevent this”, and imply it would be trivial. Generative AI, famously, has difficult guardrails and there are constant “jailbreaks”. I guess you mean that they could have been overzealous with the prevention of all “spicy” content to prevent this, but I don’t think thats even as true as you claim.

Why is it so hard to generate with other models, but trivial with Grok?

Re: Grok Build is open source

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And for generating an absolutely gargantuan amount of CSAM and non-consensual sexualized images, but yeah, exfiltrating data too.

Are you suggesting Grok hired some people on the dark web or some shit? An AI model can't generate CSAM what kind of bullshit are you spewing.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2026/07/lawsuit-grok-use...

This is only the most recent example. Plenty of headlines like this one if you'd even bother to look.

Re: Grok Build is open source

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post #650

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No, you don't need to pick a fixed width font for that. You will get the best results with one, but rescaling the glyphs works just fine. I've written a font renderer. It's not hard. In fact my terminal, using said font renderer, rescales glyphs by default because even a lot of "fixed width" fonts are buggy and not truly fixed, and so enforcing the grid alignment and scaling to fit was the easiest way to ensure consi…

I thought this discussion is more about somehow aligning pipes over multiple lines in existing console emulators(impossible), than about implementing a complete custom graphical text rendering system specific to your app that butcher font files to put glyphs wherever you want? That feels like cheating since you're not rendering provided font at that point. Besides you might as well just use SVG for diagrams than pret…

> I thought this discussion is more about somehow aligning pipes over multiple lines in existing console emulators(impossible)

I am aligning pipes over multiple lines in my existing console emulator. It's not just not impossible, but near trivial.

> than about implementing a complete custom graphical text rendering system specific to your app that butcher font files to put glyphs wherever you want?

It's not butchering anything. It is using the font data to render them in the way that fits the constraints of the output.

> That feels like cheating since you're not rendering provided font at that point.

Any font renderer makes just adjustments to make the font look as good as possible. That is the entire point of providing a scalable font instead of a bitmap font: That you can render the provided glyphs at any scale suitable.

Fitting the bounding box of the glyph to the bounding box of the cell the text is rendering into is entirely reasonable and the lesser of two evils when faced with a glyph that does not fit the cell, which is a relatively common occurrence, when the alternative is to clip.

It looks awful if you were to render e.g. latin script with a proportional font in a fixed grid, but for many scripts with more uniform widths the variation is a lot less, and so it's butchering things far less than rendering fallback glyphs for missing code points.

Re: Grok Build is open source

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The people with that level of money are very few.

Musk had around $180M when he founded SpaceX in 2002, and purchased Tesla in 2004. ChatGPT tells me that more than 55,000 people in the world have more wealth than this. So either people who have money choose not to make such risky investments, or they're incapable of it. Probably both. We're very lucky that someone who is both capable of building companies like this and is willing to go bankrupt doing it exists.

Profound. 1/55k regarding wealth really diminishes the role wealth plays.

Re: Grok Build is open source

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post #476

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the part where you claim they could “prevent this”, and imply it would be trivial. Generative AI, famously, has difficult guardrails and there are constant “jailbreaks”. I guess you mean that they could have been overzealous with the prevention of all “spicy” content to prevent this, but I don’t think thats even as true as you claim.

Why is it so hard to generate with other models, but trivial with Grok?

depends.

With Mango or Guava its even easier.

With the other models, they don’t generate pictures of Uranium because of the aggressive censorship.

If you don’t allow the colour pink, sure, you prevent a lot of porn, but you also prevent a lot of legitimate pictures of roses. Nobody knows how to properly censor these models so most are leaning towards caution, better a lot of false positives than the alternative.

This is most obvious with Fable. It barely functions.

FWIW Grok used to have aggressive controls too- and they loosened them after a lot of feedback because it was barely functional at showing humans, even if it was a popular figure in a non-risque situation, and this is the fallout.

Re: Grok Build is open source

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post #482

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> since leftists often play dumb And there goes the merit of your rant

No i mean it genuinely. Right wingers are often racist and xenophobic (some have lived experience basis fot these, some not) and lately (along with leftists) quite antisemitic, lets not mince words, we know this, but leftists use deception in argumentation much more often. There's a popular hundred+ million view, often reposted and requoted, tweet about this: "It's amazing how much leftist discourse is just them pret…

> There's a popular hundred+ million view, often reposted and requoted, tweet about this

Retweet it all you want, but it won't make it any more true.

Re: Grok Build is open source

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What a bunch of slop: 182 top-level external dependencies (so, without considering nested dependencies) and 1318853 lines of code in Rust. Building efficient agents is doable (I did it myself, github.com/gi-dellav/zerostack), companies just want to tokenmaxx, and as a by-product, produce and publish slop.

it started off with 500+ crates and then i still had to install dotslash crate which installed another 136 crates. seems insane.

Re: Grok Build is open source

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The AI undressing scandal was on mainstream news and being discussed publicly by politicians. It's not some underground drama. The real life people I know still remember he called the cave diver a pedo after a disagreement. There's very few people left in the world not soured on Elon.

> "mainstream news...cave diver...the world soured on Elon" Must be stressful maintaining the low quality rhetoric and negativity? Straight from reddit I presume, to regurgitate tales about cave divers. This is the diver who bizarrely and publicly attacked Musk for trying to help rescue kids from a cave. "Shove his submarine up his rear end" or something. Musk fired back his own stupid words. The court awarded the di…

All it really shows is that the British court system will sell you all the justice that money can buy.

Re: Grok Build is open source

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post #206

Sigh, why has the industry converged on TUI? Branding and aesthetics over functionality? TUI is just much worse for me. I tried Codex CLI vs Codex UI and Codex UI beats it at every level.

It is a fashion thing. I am not saying that agentic TUIs are bad or anything but it is certain fashionable to use one in 2026.

Terminal is where the real work has always been done. VS Code on the other hand is 100% a fashion thing.

Re: Grok Build is open source

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Reddit is not “the average person”

In fact, most people try and distance themselves from Reddit as much as possible. Most people I spoke to don't even know what Grok is, or that Twitter had (or needed) an AI.

Well quite. But that means that to the extent that most people know anything about grok, it's as "that twitter AI that called itself Hitler and made naked pictures of children".
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