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Someone Used AI to Write an Unauthorized Biography of Me

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Re: Someone Used AI to Write an Unauthorized Biography of Me

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is good . It should eventually make writing not a viably profitable career for anyone also. How the heck will people ever stand out and not just be grey goo? How will anyone know what is good versus garbage?

Would publishers be willing to go to the level of pulling a Milli Vanilli where they hire people to make appearances as the author? Or would a litmus test to see if an author has attended any book signings be valid?

That sounds like a cost of doing business so the question is whether using this method increases profit more than any other.

Re: Someone Used AI to Write an Unauthorized Biography of Me

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Given that everything in the book is public information, it's hard to argue that any of this is strictly _illegal_, given the First Amendment. But it's definitely distasteful to write a book about a living individual without their consent (even though this does happen all the time; technically Wikipedia does this too).

Though that does raise an interesting point: what's the difference between writing a book about someone and asking ChatGPT "Tell me the biography of X"? It's the historical meaning and prestige of saying "I wrote a book", even though with Amazon, anyone can write a book and self-publish it.

> Eamon Duede, a philosopher of science at Purdue University and one of the authors of a paper called “Why Slop Matters,” said A.I. brought joy to people who wanted to create something that very few other people would find interesting — like images of their friends in historical scenes.

> “People get an enormous amount of enjoyment and satisfaction out of creating stuff if it’s low effort,” he said. People who want to be creative, but might not be very good at it, can turn to A.I. and find “a bunch of barriers removed.”

I think there needs to be a different frame with which to analyze this scenario. Yes, it's distasteful to sell a book about a living person without their consent. But who are we to deny people the enjoyment of entertaining themselves by researching, brainstorming, and publishing a document/report/book, whatever you want to call it?

I'm glad the author mentioned it in the article, but it's definitely a different world now.

Re: Someone Used AI to Write an Unauthorized Biography of Me

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Honest question, but since when were biographies ever _authorized_? I would assume you would simply inform the subject out of politeness if at all.

Authorized/unauthorized simply describes whether the subject works with the author or not. It's just the common terminology for it.

Re: Someone Used AI to Write an Unauthorized Biography of Me

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Honest question, but since when were biographies ever _authorized_? I would assume you would simply inform the subject out of politeness if at all.

It's a very common thing. A very unscientific quick search in Google Books led me to the oldest example I could find in a minute or two being a mention in The Dublin Review in 1844 reviewing a book on the correspondence of Edmund Burke talking about the loss of material that would have been indispensable for an authorised biography. It's very unlikely to be remotely the oldest use of the term.

And that mention also gets to why authors often seek authorisation and why subjects often authorise them: Authors gain access to the subject and/or often their material, while the subject or their estates gains some control over how they are portrayed.

Re: Someone Used AI to Write an Unauthorized Biography of Me

#25

Honest question, but since when were biographies ever _authorized_? I would assume you would simply inform the subject out of politeness if at all.

Technically, a wikipedia page of a [living] person is an unauthorized biography!

But we'd like to think the crowdsourced editing process gives it some more trustworthiness than a random person self-publishing a book

Re: Someone Used AI to Write an Unauthorized Biography of Me

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> "Two business school professors, curious about A.I. books and whether anyone actually likes them, gathered data about 10 million books published on Amazon over the last five years. They found that the number of e-books published per month had tripled since the release of ChatGPT, to more than 300,000 at the end of last year, from around 100,000 in 2022. (Amazon said that its internal metrics did not show that level…

> As economists, they told me, they’re less concerned with literary quality or customer satisfaction than revenue growth and market expansion. As a human, I am concerned with these economists.

In fairness, we haven't heard in these economists' own words what their position is and it's possible that it's more nuanced than the author gives them credit for. (There's the quote about Fifty Shades but that's making a more defensible point and doesn't get into the "customer satisfaction" thing.)

Re: Someone Used AI to Write an Unauthorized Biography of Me

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I'd love it if marketplaces just banned AI books entirely. I see zero value in it. If I want AI text I can just go to AI it and it'll print out a books worth of text anyway; if I'm searching for a book I want something written by a human. I have zero interest in giving money to grifters and spammers.

Incidentally, I feel like Cartoon Network predicted our current dystopian future like over a decade ago with one of their joke infomercials: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQLdhVpLBVE . (It's funny at least!) Thought coins and hiding from bots.

Re: Someone Used AI to Write an Unauthorized Biography of Me

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Couldn't find a discussion yet on Wikipedia about how slop books with ISBNs and publishers are more authoritative sources than primary sources by the letter of its rules, but I expect there'll be one by the time I finish popping a bag of popcorn

Unsurprisingly, Wikipedia does not take this position, and is in fact pretty skeptical of self-published and especially AI-generated work. Its guidelines do say that "books published by respected publishing houses" are more likely to be reliable sources, but that's obviously different from having an ISBN, and of course such books are not AI-generated.

The primary sources thing is a different matter; primary and secondary sources serve different purposes.

Re: Someone Used AI to Write an Unauthorized Biography of Me

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> "Two business school professors, curious about A.I. books and whether anyone actually likes them, gathered data about 10 million books published on Amazon over the last five years. They found that the number of e-books published per month had tripled since the release of ChatGPT, to more than 300,000 at the end of last year, from around 100,000 in 2022. (Amazon said that its internal metrics did not show that level…

> As economists, they told me, they’re less concerned with literary quality or customer satisfaction than revenue growth and market expansion. As a human, I am concerned with these economists.

I think they’re saying if AI text is causing people to buy (and presumably read) more, that’s a good thing.

As in, if these marginal readers actually prefer AI texts, what does that say about human writing?

Re: Someone Used AI to Write an Unauthorized Biography of Me

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> "Two business school professors, curious about A.I. books and whether anyone actually likes them, gathered data about 10 million books published on Amazon over the last five years. They found that the number of e-books published per month had tripled since the release of ChatGPT, to more than 300,000 at the end of last year, from around 100,000 in 2022. (Amazon said that its internal metrics did not show that level…

KDP now has a limit of 10 books per week to limit it unless you can convince them you're a legitimate publisher, and e.g. Draft2Digital does not submit ebooks to Amazon any more for the same reason. But you can still offer paperbacks via any number of third party providers that will be available via Amazon.
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