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Re: OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

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Post by seanw444 »

microtonal wrote: post #209
pta2002 wrote: post #112

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Google’s phones are pretty good nowadays, I feel like they carry that ethos more than modern OnePlus phones anyway. Plus they can be unlocked trivially, which is officially supported, and you can install GrapheneOS on them.

I buy Pixel for GrapheneOS, but the hardware is terrible for the price. They charge flagship prices for what are mid-range SoCs. They are very heavy for the size (e.g. the 10/10 Pro are around 205g) and the weight distribution makes them feel like a brick. Battery life is very mediocre, even with almost no apps or other crap installed. They have also had a lot of hardware/software issues in recent years - spicy pillo…

> GrapheneOS is stellar and until next year, getting a Pixel is the only way to run it.

I'm hoping the Moto GrapheneOS phones will be solid. They will be my new primary option if so.

Re: OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

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Post by anticorporate »

alias_neo wrote: post #65
rock_artist wrote: post #41

I'm not sure as others why others feel this is a major change. OnePlus was always a subsidiary by Carl Pei [1] who eventually left the brand to create a new gadgets/tech company. Nothing [2] is the next project he started that keeps many of the ideas started with OnePlus, good value for money and aim for quality Android. Bootloader also seems to allow unlocking [3] In recent years OnePlus was just another Chinese pho…

As someone who was a big OnePlus fan from the 3 era to the 9 Pro, I saw the decline, I moved over when Nexus died, and had used a mixed bag before then. OnePlus was on the decline and it was clear it wouldn't be a contender for much longer here in the UK, especially when they merged OSs with the OPPO (?) OS, and software quality went through the floor. I moved to Pixels and currently have a Pixel 9 Pro XL which I'm l…

Where OnePlus excelled over Pixels (at least at one point in time; I've owned both and gone back to Pixel) was that the OnePlus' beefier hardware meant that the camera startup time and autofocus speed was much faster. The cameras were comparable, but pulling out your Pixel and having a noticeable delay between double-tapping your hardware button and actually being able to take a decent picture was painful. OnePlus solved this with their camera software and beefier specs.

Somewhere along the way, the Pixel caught up, and the other quirks of the OnePlus diminished the relative benefit (I recall having some issues with their Android variant, and their charging system not actually following the USB-C spec in a way that was causing me issues). As someone who generally doesn't care about smartphone specs aside from "can it last all day?" and "can I take decent pictures without giving it much thought" the OnePlus line was briefly a great option, but hasn't done anything to make me want to try another one in a decade now.

I can't speak much to other flagship phones; I'll never own an Apple product and my experiences with Samsung's software across other devices means I'll likely never consider them either.

Re: OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

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Post by amarant »

neogodless wrote: post #84
amarant wrote: post #78

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The issues are legion. First thing I noticed was the addition of bloat. The "stock android"was a main selling point for me, but I do not feel they delivered. The ultra fast charging has been nice on occasion, but I think it's done more harm than good: the battery deteriorated faster than any phone I've had before it. I've had lots of issues with the usb-c port, it keeps spitting out cables, occasionally doesn't conne…

And these were issues you had with the phone on day one?

The loose sound switch and broken power button came later, but the rest was day one.

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Post by chaosharmonic »

rock_artist wrote: post #41

I'm not sure as others why others feel this is a major change. OnePlus was always a subsidiary by Carl Pei [1] who eventually left the brand to create a new gadgets/tech company. Nothing [2] is the next project he started that keeps many of the ideas started with OnePlus, good value for money and aim for quality Android. Bootloader also seems to allow unlocking [3] In recent years OnePlus was just another Chinese pho…

It kinda feels cyclical, tbh. Bang-for-buck entrant that's friendly to modders shows up in the market, enthusiasts flock to it, it chases a bigger market as it grows, and then it eventually fades out as it loses what made it special in the first place -- assuming it even makes it that far.

I also think of Essential and Poco when this kind of thing comes up.

Re: OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

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Post by dminik »

inigyou wrote: post #230
dminik wrote: post #223

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Bit hard to do with a phone I no longer have in my hand. Additionally, I wasn't sure if that would void my warranty. It did cross my mind, and I did buy it for the possibility to do that in the future if necessary, but I just wasn't in the position to actually do so.

People need to stop caring about warranties so much. Don't overpay, and have emergency funds. If you break something, fix it or replace it. When someone dropped my phone and cracked the screen, I spent 300€ on a new phone. Not 3000€ because I'm not an idiot.

Thanks for calling me an idiot I guess ...

I mean, I don't particularly understand how "caring about warranty" goes against what you've written after that. Replacing something for free is surely better than doing so for $300 dollars, no?

Are you saying I should have installed GrapheneOS on the phone, possibly discovered that the phone has hardware issues and then go out to buy another phone because I have an emergency fund? Or stick with a new phone that had issues?

Or maybe I have made a mistake by buying a phone more expensive than $300? I can see this one actually, but I was going for something that didn't have ads in every menu as the cheap Chinese phones I was using up until this point.

Outside of the used market, which I tend to ignore due to battery/performance degradation, there's no way for me to buy a Pixel for less than $300 anyways.

Re: OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

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Post by inigyou »

dminik wrote: post #235
inigyou wrote: post #230

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People need to stop caring about warranties so much. Don't overpay, and have emergency funds. If you break something, fix it or replace it. When someone dropped my phone and cracked the screen, I spent 300€ on a new phone. Not 3000€ because I'm not an idiot.

Thanks for calling me an idiot I guess ... I mean, I don't particularly understand how "caring about warranty" goes against what you've written after that. Replacing something for free is surely better than doing so for $300 dollars, no? Are you saying I should have installed GrapheneOS on the phone, possibly discovered that the phone has hardware issues and then go out to buy another phone because I have an emergenc…

It isn't a free replacement. It's a $50 for a 50% chance of replacement if you need a replacement, and if you don't you still have to pay the $50.

Re: OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

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Post by layer8 »

basilikum wrote: post #218
microtonal wrote: post #200

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plus has memory compression. FYI, Android has had zRAM support since KitKat, which is from (checking notes) 2013. Same year as iOS. iOS uses way less ram than android Common measurements I have seen is around 40%, I wouldn't say way less, but it is definitely less. Still, 3x more for a model in the same year is impressive (and more than needed to be competitive with iOS) and we should give OnePlus credit for it. Sadl…

> 623 Euro, which is a nice midrange price [for a phone]. How did we get here?

Apple is already past that, with the entry-level 17e starting at 700 Euro. The midrange regular 17 starts at 950 Euro. And according to rumors those prices are likely to increase in spring if not earlier.

Re: OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

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Post by dminik »

inigyou wrote: post #236
dminik wrote: post #235

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for calling me an idiot I guess ... I mean, I don't particularly understand how "caring about warranty" goes against what you've written after that. Replacing something for free is surely better than doing so for $300 dollars, no? Are you saying I should have installed GrapheneOS on the phone, possibly discovered that the phone has hardware issues and then go out to buy another phone because I have an emergenc…

It isn't a free replacement. It's a $50 for a 50% chance of replacement if you need a replacement, and if you don't you still have to pay the $50.

This might come as a bit of a shock to you, but not everywhere has terrible customer protection. I was less interested in the (free) 2 year warranty than the 14 day free return mandated by the EU.

I wasn't really risking being denied, as long as I didn't break any rules.

Re: OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe

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Post by kay_o »

inigyou wrote: post #226
robotnikman wrote: post #225

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I wish Nothing was supported by Verizon, would love to try one of their phones.

Why do you need your carrier to like your phone? Do they not mandate interoperability in your country? Are carriers using phone blacklists?

They usse carrier whitelists , Which is even worse.

I cannot activded a EU acquired Pixel for instance. Verizon no longer needs to carrier unlock phones after 60 days too :}

Theres multiple carrier that will auto disable you sim if you move it and charge you a fee for it too !

https://www.howardforums.com/threads/is-metro-charging-to-sw...

https://www.reddit.com/r/MetroPCS/comments/1maa4rt/how_much_...

All of this was such a mind fuck.

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