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Sony deletes more movies from the accounts of people who ‘bought’ them

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Re: Sony deletes more movies from the accounts of people who ‘bought’ them

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Post by p_j_w »

treyd wrote: post #14
trencedamp wrote: post #9

I read recently that PlayStation users are moving to PC en masse, and also Xbox has been gutted by layoffs, and there's a backlash against Nintendo for the switch 2 pricing. Is the age of the console finally coming to an end?

Consoles made sense as a product category where specialized graphics hardware was not generally available for consumer PCs. We have this now, every PC has some kind of graphics hardware, and has for many years. Consoles have been riding on their momentum of their brands , but the technical justification for their product category hasn't existed for 15+ years now.

>Consoles have been riding on their momentum of their brands

This is entirely wrong. Consoles have been riding consistency and ease of use. Sure, if you look just at the spec sheet consoles make no sense. But when you look at the whole experience combined with price, this is where consoles have always won. It's always been easier to hook my console up to the TV and start playing. The Steambox closes this gap with the overall experience, but still loses out on price.

If consoles continue to enshittify, this might change.

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Post by ClumsyPilot »

papyrus9244 wrote: post #166
ikekkdcjkfke wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Remember that the power is always with the people. We can enact any law we want

Laws are great and all. But what we really need is a massive boycott. Stop buying shit manufactured or sold by Sony for a year. That alone will probably force them to backtrack every single anti consumer decision they've made recently.

> But what we really need is a massive boycott

Is it? What’s the most effective boycott you can think of ever achieved?

Re: Sony deletes more movies from the accounts of people who ‘bought’ them

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Post by anigbrowl »

The same story again?

Previously:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48730904

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48747389

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48691346

and several others.

Looking in search, it seems there's a Sony hate thread almost every day over the last month, and many of them are just reposts of the same thing (eg >10 submissions about Sony's decision to stop manufacturing game discs in 2028). It's also odd that these stories are attracting hundreds of comments every time; for comparison several submissions about about Xbox laying off ~5000 people have attracted less than 10 comments between them.

It's looking like astroturf at this point. I don't have any connection to Sony, direct or indirect; it's just a weird pattern on HN.

Re: Sony deletes more movies from the accounts of people who ‘bought’ them

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Post by gibberish678678 »

bogometer wrote: post #35

if you cant hold it your hands, you don't own it. used dvd and bluray on ebay are cheaper anyway. another underutilized resource - the public library - mine has a huge catalog of movies you can borrow for free.

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Post by ClumsyPilot »

Retric wrote: post #196
inigyou wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Power in numbers is with the people. Power in votes is with whoever has the votes. Power in money is with the billionaires. Power comes in many forms and isn't fungible.

No, Money, Votes, etc has value because the general public gives it value. All billionaires could be instantly broke if the general public decided they were broke. Votes are ultimately a method of control not an inherent power unto themselves. Societies have gotten really good at convincing people they don’t have power so it’s rarely exercised but it’s always worth remembering the difference between abstraction and t…

> value. All billionaires could be instantly broke if the general public decided they were broke.

Are we taking about abolishing the fiat currency system or bringing back the guillotines ?

Re: Sony deletes more movies from the accounts of people who ‘bought’ them

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Post by xpct »

stronglikedan wrote: post #208
xpct wrote: post #129

If you bought movies on a digital platform that would later go under (could be Sony one day), what would happen to your collection? Is it transferable in any way? If not, it's already a risk no matter which platform you use.

that's the point. you don't "buy" movies from digital platforms. you merely rent them, regardless of what the button said

Well I'd say these are different risks. It's either tied to the agreement Sony has with the movie provider, or with the platform itself. Either one could pull out. Or, my point, the company could also go under.

What is the agreement tied to?

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Post by inigyou »

drstewart wrote: post #185
inigyou wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn't matter. It should be up to the corporation to figure it out or else it's illegal and they get fined 300% of their total yearly revenue for each affected person.

Boom! Big and tough enforcement, I like it. Similarly, we should put in a law to force consumers who post bad reviews to prove they actually transacted with the business. If they can't, they have to go to every person who saw the review and personally retract it. Can't figure out who saw it? Tough. It's up to you to figure out, or else it's illegal and they get 5000 years in prison for every view it got.

If both of these were implemented, I think the companies would come out behind. You'd just have no more online reviews without proof and that would be not a very big loss. The law is already like you say in Germany.

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Post by dpoloncsak »

lightedman wrote: post #176
dpoloncsak wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The main thing consoles have going for them, imo, is the standardization of hardware. It's very easy to say "Yes this game will run on my console at 60 FPS because its identical to the other consoles where it runs at 60 FPS." Differing builds and drivers are not really a concern in the console world, where-as they are in the PC world. Some console gamers seem to think PC gaming requires hours of fiddling with setting…

"Differing builds and drivers are not really a concern in the console world" Let me tell you, as someone that repairs a TON of XBox 360s, this comment is very, VERY wrong. The GPU isn't even the same revision between the same batch runs. Did you get Xenos? Zeus? Jupiter? That determined one set of things needed for install/refurbish. Is that a Valhalla motherboard in your hands? That just limited you to a very narrow…

I'm not trying to disagree with you, I'm not too knowledgeable in this field. Even assuming what you said is true, I don't think it aligns with the public image of consoles. The general non-technical gamer doesn't know the difference.

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Post by ninalanyon »

papyrus9244 wrote: post #166
ikekkdcjkfke wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Remember that the power is always with the people. We can enact any law we want

Laws are great and all. But what we really need is a massive boycott. Stop buying shit manufactured or sold by Sony for a year. That alone will probably force them to backtrack every single anti consumer decision they've made recently.

I gave up on Sony for life when they tried to install a rootkit on my computer from an audio CD years ago and I see no reason to change.
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