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Re: Ente – Opening Our Books

#41

Post by gortok »

iamjs wrote: post #35
jadbox wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "Showing off revenue and number of accounts is showing off a tiny portion of the picture" Showing revenue is not "tiny" by any means. Considering that the vast majority of businesses hide this from the public, I think it's very notably "something larger than tiny". > "but practically speaking [they] are broke" How do you know this?

>> "but practically speaking [they] are broke" > How do you know this? They were not claiming a fact, they were posing a hypothetical.

I’m speaking of things I have personally witnessed; but won’t go into more detail than that, for various reasons.

Re: Ente – Opening Our Books

#42

Post by IndySun »

gortok wrote: post #41
iamjs wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> "but practically speaking [they] are broke" > How do you know this? They were not claiming a fact, they were posing a hypothetical.

I’m speaking of things I have personally witnessed; but won’t go into more detail than that, for various reasons.

>...won't go in the more detail...various reasons...

I wish you had said that in your opening comment. Would've helped me consider where you were coming from.

I'm just making an overall remark, wondering what you're inferring, and more widely still digesting this entire post.

Re: Ente – Opening Our Books

#44

Post by inigyou »

jadbox wrote: post #31
gortok wrote: post #8

This is one of those vanity blog posts, a “look at us, we’re open” blog posts without actual openness, or rather, limited openness where it helps their image and not openness that could backfire. Businesses don’t operate based on revenue. They operate based on profit. They operate based on operating expenses. They operate based off of free cash flow. Showing off revenue and number of accounts is showing off a tiny po…

> "Showing off revenue and number of accounts is showing off a tiny portion of the picture" Showing revenue is not "tiny" by any means. Considering that the vast majority of businesses hide this from the public, I think it's very notably "something larger than tiny". > "but practically speaking [they] are broke" How do you know this?

Is it really hard to imagine a business with 20MM revenue and 21MM expenses?

Re: Ente – Opening Our Books

#45

Post by Batman8675309 »

gortok wrote: post #41
iamjs wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> "but practically speaking [they] are broke" > How do you know this? They were not claiming a fact, they were posing a hypothetical.

I’m speaking of things I have personally witnessed; but won’t go into more detail than that, for various reasons.

Man I love this kind of "evidence" that can't be dismissed, that is ultimately just a big "just trust me bro".

Re: Ente – Opening Our Books

#46

Post by jonshariat »

alberth wrote: post #37

Buffer.com is famously open as well, if you like this kind of stuff. Revenue: https://buffer.com/metrics Expenses: https://buffer.com/transparent-pricing Salaries of every employee (which seems like PII to me): https://buffer.com/salaries And more: https://buffer.com/open

Interesting that the pricing page (and so I'm guessing the other data) hasn't been updated since 2022.

Re: Ente – Opening Our Books

#47

Post by jeswin »

gortok wrote: post #8

This is one of those vanity blog posts, a “look at us, we’re open” blog posts without actual openness, or rather, limited openness where it helps their image and not openness that could backfire. Businesses don’t operate based on revenue. They operate based on profit. They operate based on operating expenses. They operate based off of free cash flow. Showing off revenue and number of accounts is showing off a tiny po…

All you saw on that page was the revenue?

For a potential customer deciding whether to trust a relatively small app (compared to Google and Apple) with their memories, these are useful numbers. 50% increase in paying customers this year. Nearly half a million registered users, with a 40% growth in the last 6 months. 5% of their users are paying customers. Revenue topping a million. That's stuff I want to know if I'm subscribing and uploading all my pics to their servers. I want to know if they'll be around, and my stuff is safe.

> So for folks that don’t know better, this is a very cool thing ente is doing. For folks that run businesses and know better...

Oh please. Perhaps work on not jumping to conclusions too quickly.

Re: Ente – Opening Our Books

#48

Post by holistio »

jadbox wrote: post #31
gortok wrote: post #8

This is one of those vanity blog posts, a “look at us, we’re open” blog posts without actual openness, or rather, limited openness where it helps their image and not openness that could backfire. Businesses don’t operate based on revenue. They operate based on profit. They operate based on operating expenses. They operate based off of free cash flow. Showing off revenue and number of accounts is showing off a tiny po…

> "Showing off revenue and number of accounts is showing off a tiny portion of the picture" Showing revenue is not "tiny" by any means. Considering that the vast majority of businesses hide this from the public, I think it's very notably "something larger than tiny". > "but practically speaking [they] are broke" How do you know this?

18 employees on <$100k is not exactly rich.

Re: Ente – Opening Our Books

#49

Post by Cider9986 »

alexktz wrote: post #25
stavros wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish I could say the same. I tried Ente the other day, to see how it compares to Immich, but it was very hit-and-miss. Face recognition for people never worked, no matter what I tried, for example.

I'm in the same boat. I had a so many comments under Immich videos about Ente that it made me wonder if they were just bots. The client / server relationship with Ente is peculiar, and on my test dataset of about 1000 images did not perform at all. Face recognition, semantic search, etc, it was not in the same league as Immich tbh. (Also hi Stavros!)

I'm not a bot :)

Re: Ente – Opening Our Books

#50

Post by jatins »

gortok wrote: post #8

This is one of those vanity blog posts, a “look at us, we’re open” blog posts without actual openness, or rather, limited openness where it helps their image and not openness that could backfire. Businesses don’t operate based on revenue. They operate based on profit. They operate based on operating expenses. They operate based off of free cash flow. Showing off revenue and number of accounts is showing off a tiny po…

What an unnecessarily negative and cynical reaction to what is neutral at worst and positive at best
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