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The lost joy of music piracy

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Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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Since the explanation for the claim is essentially pay-walled behind the book, I will just choose to ignore it

"People got used to free shit and stopped paying as much." "Your claim is poorly supported." "Well it came from a book. Check it out if you're interested." "What? It's not free? Hell no I won't pay!"

(anecdotally) proving their point that pay walling something doesn't mean people will pay for it. Buying the book would have been hypocritical.

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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Still why I like DVDs. Smaller in size, easy to rip, and 480p is good enough that I don't mind the quality loss. Blu-ray is great, but if I'm buying something I'm not sure about or just want to have because it's worth having, DVD all the way

I have never heard the phrase 480p is good enough. 480p is not good enough, 720p might be good enough.

I like 4K UHD HDR Blu Rays very much and have a big TV to take advantage of them but I agree with gp that 480p is good enough in the sense that a good movie will still be enjoyable in 480p. And if you are engrossed in what you are watching you won't even notice the reduced detail. There are some DVDs with atrocious encode quality with a much lower effective resolution due to low bitrate (i.e. multiple full length flicks squeezed onto one DVD) or unfortunate processing (NTSC master -> PAL DVD release or the inverse is to be avoided) but that's thankfully rare.

Now, 480i is something I'd rather leave behind but even that is a lesser concern than the content of the film.

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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I mean, sure, but at some point with 3 or 4 thousand cds crated up, it became a lot easier to steal than go crate digging in my own basement. And then when what.cd happened and you could literally grab a torrent of perfectly curated files of an artist’s whole catalog, the laziness really spiked.

Brother, arranging 0s and 1s a particular way on storage you own is not theft in any context.

Unfortunately, that kind of hyper-atomism isn't really an effective argument if you don't already agree with the premise being presented. To make matters worse, the law is a collection of postulates. It can give itself the predetermination of any high-level conclusion it wants, and no amount of reasoning or appeal to lower principles will ever matter.

In otherwords, it's theft if the law says it is. Simple as that.

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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I think algorithmic music discovery is overrated. Back in the day I used to use Audioscrobler which was an audio plugin for Winamp which was basically a recommender system for music. I discovered some interesting music through that but nowhere near the amount of music I later discovered through hypem which was a music blog aggregator.

Does anyone in 2026 rate algorithmic discovery for music? Or is it widely perceived to be the engagement-reinforcement mechanism that it is?

It works well until it doesn't. I've been a Spotify user for at least 15 years (wild to say that). I've discovered a ton of bands I've become a long term fan of.

But also their algorithmic playlists have gotten worse and worse. They overfit user data. They all recommend the same singles over and over and over. I've found they also don't make sense, recommending music that doesn't even belong in the playlist.

I've switched to user created playlists more often than the algo ones, although a lot of user playlists are just saved copies of Spotify generated recommendations.

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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post #214

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Similar experience and I would never trade it in a lifetime. For the “me” today, new music discovery is all about live radio. and I don’t mean pop/satellite/corporate programmed radio. I mean radio where a human still cares . I mostly use radio.garden (sometimes TuneIn) and find crazy local stations around the world. K-Pop from Seoul, Parisian hiphop, live EDM from clubs in Ibiza, weird/fun island music from the remo…

radio.garden (and many others) got neutered in the UK courts by Sony. Offensive, short-sighted, Balkanizing decision. I haven't bought a Sony product since the rootkit debacle. My only regret is that there's not a "boycott++" mode for the damage they did with that decision.

Add the following line to ublock origin in "My filters" & make sure the "Enable my custom filters" option box is checked to get around this:

https://radio.garden/api/geo

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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post #214

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radio.garden (and many others) got neutered in the UK courts by Sony. Offensive, short-sighted, Balkanizing decision. I haven't bought a Sony product since the rootkit debacle. My only regret is that there's not a "boycott++" mode for the damage they did with that decision.

Add the following line to ublock origin in "My filters" & make sure the "Enable my custom filters" option box is checked to get around this: https://radio.garden/api/geo

!!!!!!

Made. My. Day.

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

#397
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Music piracy is alive and well if you know where to look. Some places has been mentioned in this thread already. Of course there is no replacing the magic of early 2000-2010's p2p sites like OiNK, What and Waffles - but well curated sites still exist.

Public p2p sharing is pretty much dead in the West. Only Russian Rutracker is still going strong, but everything other is either stagnating or defunct. I have a p2p sharing websites bookmarks which I collected about 5 years ago, 60% of them are dead now. Private (invite-only) West sharing websites are still alive though, but are supported mostly by beefy enthusiasts who seed everything via a seedbox elsewhere, not in…

Fun fact: Rutracker is one of the few remaining places on the internet where random Russians and Ukrainians talk respectfully to each other, and do so in Russian.

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

#398

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Brother, arranging 0s and 1s a particular way on storage you own is not theft in any context.

Unfortunately, that kind of hyper-atomism isn't really an effective argument if you don't already agree with the premise being presented. To make matters worse, the law is a collection of postulates. It can give itself the predetermination of any high-level conclusion it wants, and no amount of reasoning or appeal to lower principles will ever matter. In otherwords, it's theft if the law says it is. Simple as that.

Only if you operate under the misguided assumption that the law cannot be wrong. I care less for legalese than morals. Its plainly not theft, regardless of the hand wringing of bureaucrats and gatekeepers.

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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Great read.

Those days of the internet were fun, but also a product of their times. Whatever niche worlds we make now won’t be like the past, they have to be new.

In my time pirating I used to take tracks from The Sound Of Music and rename the files / metadata something like - .

I got a lot of downloads.

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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At a verbal level LLMs are great: questions like "tell me about hip hop artists similar to MF doom" or "is there anything new like jefferson starship?" can be the start of great conversations. They will talk your ear off about what is going on with tracks like "Dangerous" off the Yes Union Album.

I haven't had much luck with LLMs. I can guess it works with famous artists but lots of other things work with famous artists. I asked it to find more tracks like "Hey Baby" (Deadmaus, Mellifresh) and they completely failed to even come close. I couldn't even get a similar vibe.

I asked Google's AI mode "a friend of mine likes "hey baby" by (deadmus/mellifresh) and wants to find similar tracks" and mainly suggested other deadmau5 and Melleefresh tracks (corrected our spelling) -- did recommended "Internet Friends" by Knife Part and "Exceeder" by Mason. I thought the first was a direct hit, the second is a little different but "sick" in a good way... It starts a little slow but the groove gets great once I get in.
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