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My midlife crisis Corolla is fast, furious, and modded

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Re: My midlife crisis Corolla is fast, furious, and modded

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Post by ericyd »

amanaplanacanal wrote: post #424
ericyd wrote: post #418

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> Did you really think people did exhaust mods purely to torment everyone around them? I didn't, but the OP wrote: > So it is about subjecting OTHER people to his car So my comment was in response to that. I don't think people should ignore the suffering they cause for others, but to me it's different if the motivation is to cause pain vs bringing joy to like-minded people.

Right! They're not actively malicious, they just don't care about other people.

Lol I guess. I think there's a massive chasm between being ignorant of your effect on someone else and actively inflicting pain, but I'm sure I won't convince you that this is a meaningful difference if you don't already believe it. I think you could argue that tons of modern human activities cause negative experiences for other people, I don't think that means the people doing those things are terrible people. Something as simple as watering a lawn could be construed as "not caring about other people" due to failure to conserve public resources, but I don't get a lot of person benefit from cursing every person with a green lawn in the summer.

Re: My midlife crisis Corolla is fast, furious, and modded

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Post by amanaplanacanal »

ericyd wrote: post #431
amanaplanacanal wrote: post #424

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Right! They're not actively malicious, they just don't care about other people.

Lol I guess. I think there's a massive chasm between being ignorant of your effect on someone else and actively inflicting pain, but I'm sure I won't convince you that this is a meaningful difference if you don't already believe it. I think you could argue that tons of modern human activities cause negative experiences for other people, I don't think that means the people doing those things are terrible people. Somet…

It's possible that nobody has ever complained to them about the noise. It's possible that they have never been annoyed at loud noises. Anything's possible.

Re: My midlife crisis Corolla is fast, furious, and modded

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Post by ErroneousBosh »

amanaplanacanal wrote: post #423
ErroneousBosh wrote: post #393

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It's not an autocorrect. These things are terrible.

If you have a better way to get rid of all those pollutants, I'm sure we'd all love to hear about it.

Well, if you insist on running them on petrol, just having a lambda sensor and closed-loop mixture control breaks the back of it.

However, if you run them on propane instead of petrol - like they do for forklifts and Zambonis, where you have to run the engines indoors without people dying - you just get carbon dioxide and water vapour out. You don't need a catalytic converter and indeed if you have one it can make the pollution slightly worse by generating nitrogen oxides.

Imagine how clean our cities could have been if we'd done this 20 years ago, instead of selling people debt to buy "Cleaner Greener Diesels".

They're still emitting CO2, but a little less of it, and from fuel that would otherwise go up in smoke at the refinery flare stack - unless you want to stop making plastics and fertilisers.

Re: My midlife crisis Corolla is fast, furious, and modded

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Post by Makeitmakesense »

eweise wrote: post #344
Makeitmakesense wrote: post #294

Ok if anyone does find this comment, its as simple as this 1 - Manual race tuned cars are all about mechanical engagement for the driver. The engine sound is almost a requirement so you can shift without having to look at the tach. 2 - Modding cars for more noise or looks is a preference thing and in some cases can be annoying and even law breaking. We live in a chaotic world 3 - EVs are faster but do no offer the sa…

I've driven manuals my whole life. Never needed the engine to be louder so that I knew when to shift.

I said race tuned. For regular roads I agree

Re: My midlife crisis Corolla is fast, furious, and modded

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Post by englishspot »

tmh88j wrote: post #347
englishspot wrote: post #191

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yeah, majority of people just want to have something that is capable of doing cool stuff, but can't really commit to actually doing it. it's like how so many buy and tune WRXs, but don't actually take it to gravel roads.

> it's like how so many buy and tune WRXs, but don't actually take it to gravel roads. For good reason, they're not built for it. A relatively stock WRX is going to be destroyed after a few outings of hard driving on rough terrain[1]. The WRC winning Subarus[2] were fully built racecars from top to bottom and share only styling with the ones sold at dealerships. They're very fun and capable on solid pavement for a ch…

I mean yeah, stock is one thing, but when WRX owners build it out, it's usually slammed and sometimes embarrassing levels of negative camber. Rally builds are rare, even though the AWD and (for the current gen WRX) the cladding would suit it.

Re: My midlife crisis Corolla is fast, furious, and modded

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Post by stasomatic »

brokenodo wrote: post #11

I love cars and driving them. But the modded Corolla/Civic/Accord/Camry (why) people have always driven me crazy because their mods often seem directed to inflicting their cars on everyone else, with loud exhaust, subwoofers, and (subjectively) garish cosmetics, rather than things that make it actually good to drive . I recognize this is judgmental and it's unhealthy to always be annoyed at these people on the road,…

Let the kids be kids, they'll grow out of it, we all do, as opposed to grown men rolling coal in their dually Fs and RAMs. Give me a nice riced out Integra or a Sylvia any day, or a nice low rider instead. A Camry with a rally rear spoiler is sad sight indeed though.

Harleys are my scorn locally, these "tough" patched up dudes with a day job. But what's even more annoying is that there are no helmet laws in my state, all that taking up ICU beds and all and none of them organ donors I'd assume.

Re: My midlife crisis Corolla is fast, furious, and modded

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Post by stasomatic »

caconym_ wrote: post #287
hnav wrote: post #220

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It's meant for spirited driving. If it wasn't so expensive it'd be an amazing car for tooling around on gravel roads with some skidplates. Electric won't take you out to the boonies, you can't bring more juice with you and ultimately an electric package that will consistently produce 300hp while weighing 3200lbs does not exist. As far as Land Cruisers's I feel that the externalities of those and other neo-vintage box…

> If it wasn't so expensive It's too bad that Toyota and Honda don't have a WRX analogue sitting below their STI analogue, but I guess the demand for that kind of car isn't what it used to be. I'd settle for the Civic SI having a bit more power on tap. Budgetizing the GRC might be a bit more problematic.

I didn't think I'd live to see a $50K Corolla. No disrespect to what's under the hood, but it's still a plasticky Corolla. It does its job at $25K for A to B. Stick to Priuses, Toyoda-san. VW Golf R still exists, thanks Odin.

Re: My midlife crisis Corolla is fast, furious, and modded

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Post by stasomatic »

lowbloodsugar wrote: post #9

My midlife crisis car is same price, much faster, more comfortable, and doesn’t wake the neighborhood when I drive it. If you must relive the nostalgic, early 1900s technology of generating motion by rattling metal pistons with gasoline instead of steam then why not open Autotrader and buy any one of the Supras, 300ZX, 3000GTs, or other great 90s tuner cars that can be had for the same $50k as this 1.6 liter leaf blo…

Honorable mention to the the Nissan 240SX aka Sylvia, the Mitsubishi Eclipse, Toyota MR2 an Celica :) Don't remember if the Prelude was highly moddable.

Re: My midlife crisis Corolla is fast, furious, and modded

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Post by stasomatic »

forgetfreeman wrote: post #426
antisthenes wrote: post #66

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Maybe a bicycle. If you ride a bike long enough on US roads - you probably have a death wish. Given the gun ownership rates, I wouldn't be surprised if someone gets shot for doing obnoxious shit in a road rage incident.

Tl;dr: Not sure why you're catching downvotes here, you aren't wrong. True Story: ~25 years ago, well before ubiquitous mass shooting events or the now weekly local road rage incidents, I went for a ride early one Sunday morning. With the sun barely up, the air was crisp without being chilly even at speed, and the local roadways were empty. The two most common stressors while riding being the weather and other driver…

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Re: My midlife crisis Corolla is fast, furious, and modded

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Post by stasomatic »

phil21 wrote: post #198
cgyvbunji wrote: post #30

I had a coworker who one day showed up to work, pointed out the window and said look I bought a midlife crisis car very matter-of-factly, and I will never understand this. You don't need to do anything, nobody is making you do this.

> You don't need to do anything, nobody is making you do this. Hey, you just figured out the entire point of buying a mid-life crisis car! It's a joke to begin with, but if you are actually curious: One day you wake up and realize you're getting older, you can't take the money with you, and that "dream car" from your teens you always wanted to own is suddenly very much in reach. It's now or never. May as well enjoy i…

I hope it was a Taycan Cross Turismo. It's a very rare animal, driven to extinction as of this month, I believe.
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