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Ente – Opening Our Books

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Re: Ente – Opening Our Books

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Post by AnonHP »

vishnukvmd wrote: post #6
f3408fh wrote: post #4

This is so cool. Congratulations! Have you considered opening operating costs as well?

ente.com/open is fully automated. Publishing operating costs will create operational overhead, since we've to manually consolidate, label and publish expense records. Not excited about doing that right now, but would like to in the future. Currently we've runway for a few years, and a margin of ~70% – entirety of which is reinvested into building Ente.

If your margins are about 70%, do you have any plans to reduce your prices? Compared to other photo storage platforms, your pricing seems a lot higher. End to end encryption seems to be the only USP when a person looks at your hosted offering.

Re: Ente – Opening Our Books

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Post by vishnukvmd »

AnonHP wrote: post #11
vishnukvmd wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ente.com/open is fully automated. Publishing operating costs will create operational overhead, since we've to manually consolidate, label and publish expense records. Not excited about doing that right now, but would like to in the future. Currently we've runway for a few years, and a margin of ~70% – entirety of which is reinvested into building Ente.

If your margins are about 70%, do you have any plans to reduce your prices? Compared to other photo storage platforms, your pricing seems a lot higher. End to end encryption seems to be the only USP when a person looks at your hosted offering.

70% is our gross margin. We have expenses outside of infrastructure (people, ops, marketing, ...).

We have to reduce our prices, to make Ente's products accessible to a wider audience. But right now the focus is on building a sustainable business and increasing the probability of this business outliving us.

Re: Ente – Opening Our Books

#15

Post by stavros »

pseufaux wrote: post #10

I have been impressed with Ente products and customer service. It's good to see they are growing. That said, revenue information is not entirely helpful in a vacuum. I'd be more keen on seeing profit (even at a lower timeline resolution). What's the average cost for taking on a new customer? What's the retention/turnover? Etc. That said the products are great and I'd recommend them to anyone.

I wish I could say the same. I tried Ente the other day, to see how it compares to Immich, but it was very hit-and-miss. Face recognition for people never worked, no matter what I tried, for example.

Re: Ente – Opening Our Books

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Post by MomsAVoxell »

Shalomboy wrote: post #12
speak_plainly wrote: post #9

Kinda unrelated, but the art direction on Ente's site is really top-notch.

I came to the comments to say the same thing! I would love to take a seminar or a class from the folks in their design department.

I found it over blown. It took me far too long looking past the ducks to find out what Ente actually does. The design team don’t seem to be interested in the product.

Re: Ente – Opening Our Books

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Post by [deleted] »

gortok wrote: post #8

This is one of those vanity blog posts, a “look at us, we’re open” blog posts without actual openness, or rather, limited openness where it helps their image and not openness that could backfire. Businesses don’t operate based on revenue. They operate based on profit. They operate based on operating expenses. They operate based off of free cash flow. Showing off revenue and number of accounts is showing off a tiny po…

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Re: Ente – Opening Our Books

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Post by dewey »

gortok wrote: post #8

This is one of those vanity blog posts, a “look at us, we’re open” blog posts without actual openness, or rather, limited openness where it helps their image and not openness that could backfire. Businesses don’t operate based on revenue. They operate based on profit. They operate based on operating expenses. They operate based off of free cash flow. Showing off revenue and number of accounts is showing off a tiny po…

What's wrong with that? This is a post to show users that other people are paying for it (social proof) and that the project is developing well, similar to other projects sharing how many contributions or first time pull requests they got this month. That doesn't mean that you have to show everyones salary, how much the lunch in the office is costing and include a raw export of their bookkeeping setup.

There's room for both.

Re: Ente – Opening Our Books

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Post by alimbada »

I was wringing my hands trying to decide between Ente and Immich for a while as I'm trying to de-Google. I went with Immich in the end, but Ente seems like a great alternative for anyone that doesn't want to self-host.

Re: Ente – Opening Our Books

#20

Post by Cider9986 »

MomsAVoxell wrote: post #16
Shalomboy wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I came to the comments to say the same thing! I would love to take a seminar or a class from the folks in their design department.

I found it over blown. It took me far too long looking past the ducks to find out what Ente actually does. The design team don’t seem to be interested in the product.

> Safe home for your photos

This isn't clear?

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