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British Steel taken into public ownership to protect 'vital' UK supply

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Re: British Steel taken into public ownership to protect 'vital' UK supply

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Tangent: disturbing to see the BBC thinking they're going to get far by paywalling quasi-randomly in North America. At least right now it's trivial to ignore.

Disturbing? In what sense? Other news sources are paywalled and UK citizens have to pay in tax.

The annoying thing about the BBC paywall is that it is implemented by using different domains, so (for example here) people in the UK go to bbc.com instead of bbc.co.uk

Re: British Steel taken into public ownership to protect 'vital' UK supply

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This bonmot sounded cool and fun years ago, but not anymore. It is actually OK and desirable for governments to help, to organize and to lead toward positive outcome. Governments should do more then just pay military, prisons and police. Deliberate destruction and expectation of nothing positive from the governments already caused enough damage.

It never sounded cool and fun. It was government acknowledging its own limitations. Governments don't perform better if we all cheer them on. Right now a government (Russia's) is waging war on a country. Last century governments caused untold death in socialist countries (Venezuela, China, USSR) because they were trying to organise centrally.

Re: British Steel taken into public ownership to protect 'vital' UK supply

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Disturbing? In what sense? Other news sources are paywalled and UK citizens have to pay in tax.

I'm not seeing this particular paywall, but disturbing in that the BBC is so awful and stupid at this, presumably. For many years I would have gladly paid the BBC $20/mo for some way to legally watch Top Gear and Doctor Who. That's it, just two shows and I'll give you more than I give Netflix. They never offered a single legal mechanism available to US citizens, so, well.....don't admit to crimes on the internet and…

It was offered much later than iPlayer was for the UK, but to claim they 'never' had an option for US audiences is false when they have had Britbox for almost 10 years

Re: British Steel taken into public ownership to protect 'vital' UK supply

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Disturbing? In what sense? Other news sources are paywalled and UK citizens have to pay in tax.

An increasing proportion of UK citizens are deciding not to pay for a TV licence that funds the BBC as consumption patterns have changed. The BBC will be a zombie in 10 years unless they stop being emotionally driven and sort out their funding.

Good. The BBC is no longer the shining beacon of objective reporting it once was. Let it die and be replaced by something better.

Re: British Steel taken into public ownership to protect 'vital' UK supply

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This bonmot sounded cool and fun years ago, but not anymore. It is actually OK and desirable for governments to help, to organize and to lead toward positive outcome. Governments should do more then just pay military, prisons and police. Deliberate destruction and expectation of nothing positive from the governments already caused enough damage.

It never sounded cool and fun. It was government acknowledging its own limitations. Governments don't perform better if we all cheer them on. Right now a government (Russia's) is waging war on a country. Last century governments caused untold death in socialist countries (Venezuela, China, USSR) because they were trying to organise centrally.

In the spirit of fairness I have to note the untold deaths caused by non-socialist countries in Cambodia, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, pretty much every country in South America...
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