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Re: Grok Build is open source

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Post by dolmen »

greggh wrote: post #168
maipen wrote: post #107

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And why are you assuming the industry converged to it when your following statement dismantles your assumption? Spacex bought cursor, so it now has it’s agent ui which is just as good as codex + it’s multi-modal Anthropic also has it’s own ui Zai also launched theirs last month. Everyone is converging back to UI. The terminal was just a prototype, everyone knew that.

Just a prototype? I have no reason to leave the terminal for a GUI IDE. TUI works great, does what I need and is very easy to use and interact with.

TUI is not so great for copying a multiline block of text displayed on the terminal when it is indented or shown in a boxed widget.

I'm not saying that GUI are always better at allowing copying: this still requires the developer to design widgets that allow copying.

Re: Grok Build is open source

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Post by jdiff »

mlindner wrote: post #489
andai wrote: post #445

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How do you accidentally upload your user's repos to a storage bucket?

A naive implementation would just upload everything in the current directory.

That's what they did to upload a repo, the question is why they would upload the user's entire repo in the first place. The idea itself is egregious, and the implementation was horrifying on top of that.

Re: Grok Build is open source

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Post by the_duke »

drdrek wrote: post #518

I like that the trailing players strategy (Meta, xAI) is to open source the moat of the leaders. I think we will all benefit from it. and hopefully both the leaders and the trailing players will be much less powerful in the end.

Codex CLI was open source from the start.

The reason they open sourced this is because grok-build uploaded entire directories.

Re: Grok Build is open source

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Post by akouri »

deadalus wrote: post #207
bakies wrote: post #140

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It definitely doesn't feel like opus. I constantly switch to opus to fix up or finish what grok generates, it feels like sonnet 3!

Grok 4.5 is somewhere between between Opus 4.8 and Sonnet 5. Source : https://artificialanalysis.ai/models/capabilities/coding

I know this is what the leaderboards say, but empirically, I'm also seeing it make silly mistakes that opus and fable never do. So it really feels more like sonnet to me as well.

Re: Grok Build is open source

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Post by jfoster »

Barbing wrote: post #436
seanclayton wrote: post #372

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Why when they can just fork it and improve it on their own with AI?

Subsidized tokens aren’t forever & local models might not compete with an entire team of volunteers, I’d guess.

I've been contemplating that recently. You're of course correct that subsidized tokens won't be forever, but that might only be half the story, since there's two opposing forces in action:

1. Phasing out of subsidized tokens.

2. Token prices being brought down through scaling, better hardware, etc.

It's possible that these might balance each other out sufficiently that token customers won't notice any substantial increase in price.

Re: Grok Build is open source

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Post by blactuary »

timr wrote: post #388
blactuary wrote: post #346

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I know that this is a tall order, but consider that this might not actually be “objective” , and that instead, you’re substituting your opinion for facts. (You don’t need to enumerate all of the things you believe justify the statement. I’m well familiar with them. I’m just trying to make you understand that there’s a layer of subjectivity here.)

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Re: Grok Build is open source

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Post by conorcleary »

rynn wrote: post #389
xgulfie wrote: post #317

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Honestly. Some LLM enthusiasts throwing an agent at making a fork doesn't mean anyone is invested in this

That doesn’t mean they won’t be, or that the forks won’t be good.

all those youtube videos people upload nowadays aren't worth it, we already have keyboardcat (^ basically telling ppl creativity is done with, don't bother)

Re: Grok Build is open source

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Post by ninjagoo »

mlindner wrote: post #423
ninjagoo wrote: post #131

They claim to have deleted or will be deleting all the data they exfiltrated. There are independent agencies that will certify destruction of data. For example FTI Tech, Kroll, Epiq, HaystackID and others. No such certificates have been presented. Nothing less is trustworthy.

There is no such thing as a certification that data was deleted. If someone presented such a thing I would assume they're trying to cover something up.

> There is no such thing as a certification that data was deleted. If someone presented such a thing I would assume they're trying to cover something up.

I have news for you. There are standards around data destruction [1]. Courts also order data deletion, to be carried out by forensic experts [2], who trace data in computer systems, and delete what is required, and certify accordingly. This can be done even in cloud-scale compute [3][4][5] - corporate systems especially have routine extensive logging and traceability that allows for this to be accomplished. The companies that I listed earlier specialize in this compliance capability.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_erasure#Standards

[2] https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/USCOURTS-ohnd-5_17-cv-02...

[3] https://www.ftc.gov/system/files/ftc_gov/pdf/paravision_comp...

[4] https://www.ftc.gov/system/files/ftc_gov/pdf/Amazon-Proposed...

[5] https://www.ftc.gov/system/files/ftc_gov/pdf/Edmodo-Dkt15%28...

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