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Re: Ask HN: Add flag for AI-generated articles

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It breaks a central goal of HN, which is a non-siloed experience where the entire community is exposed to the same feed.

tags could be display only with no way of filtering for a certain tag.

In that case, top voted comments pointing out that the article may be AI generated already does the same job. No point in redundant tags then no?

Re: Ask HN: Add flag for AI-generated articles

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We should try replacing forum mods with AI just for a while :)

I wish!

I'm not volunteering, and I know you aren't asking, but why don't you have more moderators than you seem to? Do what other forums do and have regular mod drives, take applications from the community, take on more people during high traffic, etc. They don't all need to be employees of YC with backend experience do they?

Re: Ask HN: Add flag for AI-generated articles

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If counterfeit or stolen cash is indistinguishable from real or honest cash, should you accept it? Should you spend it? No. Why? Because doing so erodes and potentially destroys society. Whether you agree that a con artist is only a criminal if he gets caught, or you think he’s a criminal the whole time, surely you can see why many people might want to know if they are dealing with a friend and not something simulati…

bullshitting has never been a crime if it were, 90% of startups would be illegal and they founders jailable

Bullshitting has potentially severe consequences to the bullshitter. A good reputation is worth a lot.

Of course, Elon Musk makes many millions with his bullshit. I admit that.

Re: Ask HN: Add flag for AI-generated articles

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> it is accurate and interesting, do you care who wrote it? Yes, because I have an interest in traces and mechanisms of human connections being preserved.

Thank you. I swear to god, it’s like half of the people on this site are fucked in the head socially. Like, of course it matters who wrote it - an author imparts parts of themself onto their work. That’s what makes writing that’s worth reading.

Bro do you know what industry we work in? We work in an industry that openly champions destroying the jobs of others then sarcastically told them to learn how to code. It's no wonder the general public has open disdain towards big tech.

Re: Ask HN: Add flag for AI-generated articles

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Regular downvotes/flags are for low quality or spam. AI content isn't always 'bad' per se, it’s just... empty. It eats up attention without saying anything new. A dedicated tag would be great because I don't want to bury the post, I just want to opt out of reading a glorified autocomplete.

Re: Ask HN: Add flag for AI-generated articles

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Personally, I've been using a small browser plugin called "hn_mute_" (On FF and chrome). It lets me permanently mute any user with 1 click. I have a 0 tolerance policy for ai-gen article posts, among other types of behavior. This sound harsh, and so unfortunately has false positives. But is required in this environment. This is a partial solution, and would be enhanced by network effects. (e.g. people sharing mute lists, and aggregating)

Re: Ask HN: Add flag for AI-generated articles

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We don't allow genai text on HN itself - see https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html#generated and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47340079 . How to enforce it is a separate question, of course, but the rule exists. We don't have a similar rule yet about article content but my sense is that the community mostly doesn't want to read it—or, to put it more conservatively, discounts it. This is why we see s…

I think classifying it as an allergy or a status thing is a little too glib. I’ve read and reviewed, conservatively, hundreds of AI generated documents for work, and “written”/commissioned a bunch too. My biggest issue is that it’s impossible to engage with and give feedback on an AI written document, because it’s impossible to know whether misconceptions or gaps are because the author doesn’t understand the material…

Status thing sounds correct because humans have a subconscious filter that checks what is the status of the person emitting the information to evaluate if it should be accepted or not.

This is well researched in both neuroscience and cognitive psychology.

But you are correct that it's also a feedback issue.

I don't read AI articles because if the writer didn't spend mental energy on it then why should I.

Re: Ask HN: Add flag for AI-generated articles

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What I do know is that users should flag articles that they think don't belong on HN If this is true then this statement should be added to the guidelines. Many a time I've seen a submission and thought "My god, this is the most moronic thing I've ever read in my life, nearly every single factual claim in this is wrong" but I don't flag it because "don't post utter drivel" is not in the guidelines.

What did you think flagging was for? (Genuine question) It's true that we don't spell things out precisely, but that's because it's impossible to spell things out fully precisely. If you start, where do you stop?

To flag things for removal that the powers that be, aka you, don't want on HN, as defined by the Guidelines. What I want on HN and what you want on HN aren't the same, so users like me have to go by the Guidelines on what is and isn't flaggable. For example, some types of submissions I utterly despise but don't violate the guidelines include "product launches that lie about being the first/only way to do something when this tool already exists", "obvious bullshit like a ten year old curing cancer", "this month's revolutionary new battery technology, ignore the fact it has so little real application we aren't even patenting it", and the classic "here is a five page article examining a question whose answer is not only incredibly obvious but can be answered in a single sentence".

I'd be overjoyed if you told us you wanted us to flag that stuff.

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