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> my actual app is pretty much garbage The app review process is explicitly meant to keep out garbage apps. Sounds like it worked as designed?
> Sounds like it worked as designed? It didn't, because his admittedly garbage app ended up on the app store, because the app review process doesn't actually keep out garbage apps.
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webapps are inefficient, clunky, slow substitutes to actual native apps. I think decades of marketing and billions spent by Google trying to convince people that webapps are better is what makes many tech people think they are. Literally. People "want" webapps to be what users "wanted" bc it pays their salary...
That's clever rhetoric, but for most use cases it's just not true, and that's the point of the original article. There are legitimate use cases for native apps, but many of them could be converted to an instantly loading, 50-100KB web page without losing any functionality. As opposed to a 50-300MB native app, which you need a fast connection to install, and starts up more slowly than the web page every time you use i…
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> While the app is awake, sure. That's not true. The browser's push service wakes the service worker on delivery, even if the PWA is fully closed. That's the entire point of Push API vs polling.
And the OS will never background the browser for battery optimization reasons? Genuine question, I'm not an expert on mobile OSs (as you already guessed).
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> Down to the manufacturer of the whole product you're buying. In case of an app, what is the "product" you are buying? Because according to Apple, they add a lot of "value" by ensuring the software is safe, performant, etc etc. Am I not buying "a safe, checked app"? Or am I buying an app and then separately pay Apple for an added service of "checking the app for safety" etc etc. I'd very much presume the first. But…
> Am I not buying "a safe, checked app"? I wouldn't presume that. Malware ends up in the app store all the time.
I personally think it's a lie at best, or a scam (on multinational level) at worst. I've always been convinced that regulation should force companies that make such statements to be held responsible. Treat them like an insurance company or such.
I pay a few dollars every month to be protected against scams and malware. So when I do get infected, Apple failed to do what I paid it for and Apple should be forced to pay me for damages.
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This is wrong. The most important reasons why I prefer mobile apps are the same as why I prefer desktop programs. - I can download it once and then use it. - I can see when it gets updated (versus a website that gets updated every time I load it). For security reasons it's better, I can even verify my app with other people online and make sure we run the same thing. - End-to-end encryption doesn't make much sense in…
1. You can download & install PWAs for offline use too. 2. This isn't true for apps anymore. Server driven ui is a thing. 3. JS runs locally. You can inspect the network traffic more easily than you can with an app. 4. You can audit OSS websites too. 5. Your personal preferences have nothing to do with the fact that Apple makes tons of money from apps but not websites.
2. Wut?
3. The network traffic of an end-to-end encrypted app is... encrypted traffic to the server you don't trust.
4. Not sure if it's bad faith or not, you conveniently drop the other ideas: can you fork a website and use it against the original service? And again, if you audit the sources and then load the website, you have no idea if you are running those sources or not. Or if you will next time you hit "refresh".
5. Granted, they make a ton of money for apps. My solution to that is to force them to allow third-party stores.
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I love hosting and I will never stop doing it. I keep buying servers (second hand; almost no one actually needs the latest) and hosting 1000s of companies.
How did you get companies to sign up to your website business?
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I feel like I'm taking crazy pills reading these comments. Apps are clearly better for end users. HTML and css is SUPER slow. It doesn't feel native, it doesn't feel good to use. You also get so many weird glitches with state refreshing, sessions being cleared, log in not persisting. Has anyone here actually used a PWA? You can feel that it's slow and clunky. Apps feel SO much better with the native UI, pre-downloade…
You might be taking crazy pills or you've yet to come across an app that's just a webpage inside a web view (a lot of apps these days unfortunately)