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The End of Creativity

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Re: The End of Creativity

#61
This has nothing to do with creativity ending. It sounds like those videos were utterly unremarkable, and the author is telling the story of people with low standards.

It’s as if two guest brought food from two different hamburger chains, enjoyed the food, noticed how the hamburgers were similar, and then announced the end of fine dining.

Re: The End of Creativity

#62
I went to a party in Germany some years ago.

It was a birthday for someone.

What was fun was that people all offered jokes or poems or whatever.

I remarked at the quality of the offerings, and was told that there where books of content to choose from. No one has to do all the labor from scratch.

But they do have to interact, and put a bit of themselves in there.

It's an 80/20 problem, and if ine is enough of a genius to be going much past the 20% individual effort, then Bravo!

Just don't phone it in with some 99/1 AI sloppery and look an ass.

Re: The End of Creativity

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Maybe I'm an outlier, but personally if a friend used ai to make me a gift like in TFA, I'd be pretty offended. Using AI shows that you didn't care enough to even think about it on your own. When I see a business use obviously AI generated imagery, I think "I'll stay away from them, they clearly don't care enough to do things the right way." It's a sign of disrespect and a lack of care. I know my partner thinks simil…

What if I used no AI in writing it i.e. it was all heartfelt but used AI to literally edit a video together? The author says "Two videos, with different stories, shared so many similarities that most people thought they were roughly the same. Same similar tone of voiceover with cadence. Same cutscenes of flying over empty beaches, and navigating forest trees and stars/universe, and same narrative: after years of evol…

"The person of our group that championed it used AI for the script/narrative"

Re: The End of Creativity

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I look at This Is Colossal [0] and see how art and creativity is alive and fresh as ever. There is no end to creativity. [0] https://www.thisiscolossal.com

You are arguing that creativity is still alive by showing creative works from before AI? I think your argument is backwards.

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Re: The End of Creativity

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post #7

Maybe I'm an outlier, but personally if a friend used ai to make me a gift like in TFA, I'd be pretty offended. Using AI shows that you didn't care enough to even think about it on your own. When I see a business use obviously AI generated imagery, I think "I'll stay away from them, they clearly don't care enough to do things the right way." It's a sign of disrespect and a lack of care. I know my partner thinks simil…

If someone says "if a friend used ai to make me a gift like in TFA, I'd be pretty offended" and not spell out what TFA means and make me ask ai, I'll be shaking my head

Re: The End of Creativity

#67

It's a weird title. AI lets ordinary people feel more creative than before. It's largely an illusion because of the problem outlined in the article: every video, image, blog post, or book written by AI is very same-y, especially if you don't start with a strong vision of your own. But that's not the end of creativity. That's just a net increase in fake creativity. AI doesn't show up at your place and break all your b…

> So I think it will have a negative impact on artists' incomes.

Creativity essentially becoming a hobby for already wealthy people isn't exactly "the end of creativity", but it isn't that far from it either.

Re: The End of Creativity

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What if I used no AI in writing it i.e. it was all heartfelt but used AI to literally edit a video together? The author says "Two videos, with different stories, shared so many similarities that most people thought they were roughly the same. Same similar tone of voiceover with cadence. Same cutscenes of flying over empty beaches, and navigating forest trees and stars/universe, and same narrative: after years of evol…

>Which to me, just means the manually done cutscenes was a waste of time? In fact in most situations pre-AI you'd foist this task on "that one friend" who's good with Movie Maker or hire a hobby videographer. Now I offload to AI, why is that bad? Because there's no value in something that you offload to AI without effort. If it's something that anyone could do, without skill, why would anyone be impressed by that?

> If it's something that anyone could do, without skill, why would anyone be impressed by that?

Gifts aren't supposed to be impressive. Nor is their value measured by effort or cost.

Nor does this reply answer their question of "is hiring a professional to to it any better?" It seems you would have to argue no, though.

Re: The End of Creativity

#69

I think if AI has taught us anything, it’s that we over-indexed on human creativity in the first place. True creativity is rare, and often accidental.

It might be rare, but it's anything but accidental. Real creative people work hard on it. It's why they find AI so offensive.

I don't mean to be rude, only to provide Vulcan-esque observation. It's my observation that many "real creative" people spend most of their time permutating across a defined landscape of prior creative discoveries, creating derivatives of their own prior work. There's nothing wrong with that (and it's good that they reap the benefits of that) but that's what I mean when I say it's rare.

Conversely, AI, in absolutely everything it does, because of how it works, is literally average. Middle-of-the-road. Mainstream. Safe. It is the antithesis of creativity. Anything it does that seems creative is really just novelty factor. Any "real creative" should not be intimidated by this. Any "real creative" would not be intimidated by this.

Re: The End of Creativity

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post #7

Maybe I'm an outlier, but personally if a friend used ai to make me a gift like in TFA, I'd be pretty offended. Using AI shows that you didn't care enough to even think about it on your own. When I see a business use obviously AI generated imagery, I think "I'll stay away from them, they clearly don't care enough to do things the right way." It's a sign of disrespect and a lack of care. I know my partner thinks simil…

On the gift scale, an AI thing is worse than an envelope with cash.

Ironically, I think that serves as an absurdist refutation of the argument. On the gift scale, the question is appropriateness, a measure of sacrifice, and a measure of thoughtfulness. Personally I'd find some kind of AI-personalised gift to be slightly less worse than buying me a Gift™ from a major chain store.
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