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Post by jimmygrapes »

this_user wrote: post #223
CobrastanJorji wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another tactical move is to just stop. You're allowed to exit the AI business. Nobody's forcing you to keep throwing money into the furnace. Just be a rocket company. All of the xAI founders left. Your product's brand name is mud. Just stop doing that and build spaceships.

You misunderstand Musk's motivation. This was never about money for him, but about control over a key technology. One of the main reasons he exited OpenAI was the fact that the other co-founders wanted to create a structure where no one, Musk included, would be able to seize full control of the company. That was the thing that prompted him to leave, which tells you a lot about what he really wanted in the first place…

What happened to the rule about steelmanning? I know it's chic to post super hot takes about what we assume a persons intentions are, and I know there are plenty of "if you can't see how bad they are you're the problem" type justifications; I know the supposed goal of empathy is tossed aside at first hint of disagreement whether real or perceived, and I know there is "evidence" of justification for hatred/dismissal. Yet still there is self-righteous presumption bandied about in a negative way that violates that steelman rule. Justified of course by the idea that there are no negotiations with terrorists, no association with Nazis, no forgiveness or understanding given to the Other.

I just don't get it, I'm sorry.

Re: Grok Build is open source

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Post by simonw »

simonw wrote: post #299

There's some surprising stuff in this codebase. For example, https://github.com/xai-org/grok-build/blob/b189869b7755d2b48... is a "self-contained terminal renderer for Mermaid diagrams", which renders a subset of Mermaid chart types using Unicode box-drawing.

I had Fable 5 compile that Rust code to WebAssembly and build a browser-based playground for it, so you can try it out with Mermaid diagrams here: https://tools.simonwillison.net/grok-mermaid

A few more notes on my Grok code explorations on my blog: https://simonwillison.net/2026/Jul/15/grok-build/

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Post by m4rtink »

Gigachad wrote: post #263
embedding-shape wrote: post #222

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Just be a rocket company

The rocket business is hardly profitable. The whole valuation is based around grok and space datacenters. He needs to keep pumping the hype or else we are in for the worlds biggest crash.

Well, in the long run expansion into space is the only profitable thing.

Re: Grok Build is open source

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Post by m4rtink »

ninjagoo wrote: post #131

They claim to have deleted or will be deleting all the data they exfiltrated. There are independent agencies that will certify destruction of data. For example FTI Tech, Kroll, Epiq, HaystackID and others. No such certificates have been presented. Nothing less is trustworthy.

How is this case any different from how cloud hosted AI agents work ? The agent needs all of those files to complete the task you give it & is not running locally.

So I don't think it can ever work without exhilarating the data - rather I am still surprised people don't understand the implications.

Re: Grok Build is open source

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Post by hackinthebochs »

noodleonthis wrote: post #235

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The overly generous image/video generation was a product of their excess compute. No point in letting it sit idle while you build up your infrastructure. But you were getting far more than what you paid for. Now your quota more accurately reflects the cost to create it (even still its generous compared to api costs) but everyone has their expectations set based on the subsidized access. Perhaps giving away too much is counter productive because users will revolt once the quotas are changed to better reflect reality.
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