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Inkling: Our Open-Weights Model

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Re: Inkling: Our Open-Weights Model

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Post by drob518 »

andriy_koval wrote: post #100
ergocoder wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The same business model that Deepseek is using. Open-source models + services. This is more attractive because it doesn't lock in the vendors. If I grow larger, I can decide to deploy the open-source models.

> The same business model that Deepseek is using. there is a chance their business model is absorbing government funding..

Better than average chance I’d say. I suspect they are hoovering up EVERYTHING that gets sent to them. Whether that’s a problem or not depends on your data. I do wonder how many security tokens they get in the stream on a daily basis.

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Post by xenospn »

codemog wrote: post #126
ls_stats wrote: post #2

America needs its own DeepSeek or Z.ai, a lot of people (myself included) root for open chinese models to win because they have no other choice. Thinking Machines might be it.

I’m trying to be charitable but your comment reads as “China bad” propaganda to me. Who cares that DeepSeek and Z.ai are Chinese companies?

Try selling SaaS for finance (think Private Equity/Wall St type customers) that is powered by a Chinese model. See how far you get.

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Post by maxloh »

soundworlds wrote: post #147
ls_stats wrote: post #2

America needs its own DeepSeek or Z.ai, a lot of people (myself included) root for open chinese models to win because they have no other choice. Thinking Machines might be it.

AllenAI is also one to keep your eye on. Founded by Paul Allen of Microsoft, they are one of the best teams working towards truly transparent / open AI (including training data)

I love Allen AI.

I find it wonderful that, as a non-profit, they are only one to two years behind SOTA models that cost billions of dollars to build, if not more.

Re: Inkling: Our Open-Weights Model

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Post by ljlolel »

minraws wrote: post #38

For a first model, and given it's open, I am gaining some faith in American Open research labs again... I couldn't test it since it's not on openrouter or something, but even if it's only as good as GLM5.1 that's more than good enough first attempt, I think. Perhaps a lot more labs will catch up to ballpark frontier esque level soon, I am all for more competition in any field.

it's on TrustedRouter https://trustedrouter.com/models/thinkingmachines/inkling-1m

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Post by maxloh »

codemog wrote: post #126
ls_stats wrote: post #2

America needs its own DeepSeek or Z.ai, a lot of people (myself included) root for open chinese models to win because they have no other choice. Thinking Machines might be it.

I’m trying to be charitable but your comment reads as “China bad” propaganda to me. Who cares that DeepSeek and Z.ai are Chinese companies?

LLMs aren't just for coding and math. Many people understand the world through LLMs, even when it comes to philosophy and politics.

If you understand the world through a Chinese LLM, you are seeing it through a biased lens stemming from biased training data.

(Also, in that way, having all major LLMs developed by the US carries a risk too. We need more diversity than just the viewpoints of the US or China.)

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Post by yellowlimetea »

dominotw wrote: post #131

everyone and their grandma shipping top tier models now. anthropic and openai trying to capture the app layer with their shitty 'super app'

We always have been, Big Tech has been extremely slow to catch up to the indies.

Nobody is making money lmao.

I would not bet on OpenAI creating any good products, they never have. They are like Meta in all this - never innovated anything themselves, can only acquire others to stay relevant. They'll never do an incredible consumer experience on the level of a PlayStation or Blizzard or even Google.

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