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Re: Grok Build is open source

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Post by croes »

avaer wrote: post #189
croes wrote: post #67

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First, why audit it when the agent can build a new one. Second, can you guarantee that an AI company can’t use its AI to hide malicious code from AI audits. Who if not an AI company could have such an expertise? I don’t trust a company that pollutes the air of other people with illegal gas turbines because it shows the value their profit over people‘s health

> Second, can you guarantee that an AI company can’t use its AI to hide malicious code from AI audits. Who if not an AI company could have such an expertise? Any evidence for this conspiracy theory? It's not on anyone to disprove this claim. > it shows the value their profit over people‘s health Companies are chartered to make their shareholders value. To a first approximation, it's illegal for a company to "fuckit,…

> Any evidence for this conspiracy theory? It's not on anyone to disprove this claim.

If you have a record it’s on you to justify why I should trust you

> unless this is what the shareholders voted for

You do realize that for SpaceX the Musk has 85% of the voting power?

https://www.tradingkey.com/analysis/stocks/us-stocks/2619195...

And not every company I ever heard of installed gas turbines without permission that pollute the air for citizens.

Every company could act in bad faith but only domestic actually do and SpaceX is one of them.

Maybe you should try to explain those residents whose air is polluted that other companies are bad too. I‘m sure that relieves them.

Re: Grok Build is open source

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Post by cyberax »

fragmede wrote: post #224
cyberax wrote: post #167

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He doesn't have _that_ many. And they're also not _his_, he just got them from NVidia.

You don't have to like the guy, but buying something is typically how ownership goes. I refer to my car as mine, but I did just buy it from Honda.

I mean that it's not his IP, he's not producing any GPUs/TPUs. He's just reselling his idle stock of cards.

Re: Grok Build is open source

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Post by miguelazo »

throwitaway222 wrote: post #269
popalchemist wrote: post #260

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I wouldn't trust any numbers that came out of USAID. Mr Beast drilled hundreds of wells, built hundreds of houses for mere few million in Africa. If USAID really did sent 130 Billion in the last 20 years then there literally would be unlimited houses and unlimited wells already completed. Yet to my knowledge only a few solar wells, no houses have been built by USAID.

Mr. Beast? LMAO. A ridiculous comparison in terms of development project implementation. (And I am no fan of USAID, whose real chief mission was creating dependency on the US and overthrowing independent governments.)

Re: Grok Build is open source

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Post by nchmy »

this_user wrote: post #223
CobrastanJorji wrote: post #133

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Another tactical move is to just stop. You're allowed to exit the AI business. Nobody's forcing you to keep throwing money into the furnace. Just be a rocket company. All of the xAI founders left. Your product's brand name is mud. Just stop doing that and build spaceships.

You misunderstand Musk's motivation. This was never about money for him, but about control over a key technology. One of the main reasons he exited OpenAI was the fact that the other co-founders wanted to create a structure where no one, Musk included, would be able to seize full control of the company. That was the thing that prompted him to leave, which tells you a lot about what he really wanted in the first place…

Doesn't saltman effectively have full control of the company?

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Post by throwitaway222 »

miguelazo wrote: post #295
throwitaway222 wrote: post #269

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I wouldn't trust any numbers that came out of USAID. Mr Beast drilled hundreds of wells, built hundreds of houses for mere few million in Africa. If USAID really did sent 130 Billion in the last 20 years then there literally would be unlimited houses and unlimited wells already completed. Yet to my knowledge only a few solar wells, no houses have been built by USAID.

Mr. Beast? LMAO. A ridiculous comparison in terms of development project implementation. (And I am no fan of USAID, whose real chief mission was creating dependency on the US and overthrowing independent governments.)

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Re: Grok Build is open source

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Post by mandeepj »

this_user wrote: post #223
CobrastanJorji wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another tactical move is to just stop. You're allowed to exit the AI business. Nobody's forcing you to keep throwing money into the furnace. Just be a rocket company. All of the xAI founders left. Your product's brand name is mud. Just stop doing that and build spaceships.

You misunderstand Musk's motivation. This was never about money for him, but about control over a key technology. One of the main reasons he exited OpenAI was the fact that the other co-founders wanted to create a structure where no one, Musk included, would be able to seize full control of the company. That was the thing that prompted him to leave, which tells you a lot about what he really wanted in the first place…

> This was never about money for him, but about control over a key technology

It's very comforting to know for those reasons he'd never be able to become POTUS; although there's still a way, I hope he never gets to know about it. Otherwise, he'll make it a fascist land.

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