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Leak of San Francisco Police Drone Footage Exposes Reality of Urban Surveillance

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Re: Leak of San Francisco Police Drone Footage Exposes Reality of Urban Surveillance

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Can you just quote the part of the article that says something to the effect of "when it's dark, black and white motorists commit similar levels of traffic offenses"?

You're not going to get a response because the study has been debunked and wasn't able to support your claim. Even this study showed that Black motorists commit more traffic offenses than White motorists at night.

I figured as much.

Re: Leak of San Francisco Police Drone Footage Exposes Reality of Urban Surveillance

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>the better our police are the lighter the sentences can be. >If the chances of catching are near 100% you only need a smaller deterrent I would rather live in a world with marginally higher petty crime rates with zero surveillance, than a world that has no petty crime but where there are Flock cameras on every corner and drones patrolling overhead at all times. Peter Thiel and his ilk are creating Big Brother.

> marginally higher petty crime rates And what is a petty crime these days? Within the last year in Woolston Lyttelton and Brighton: I've been assualted unprovoked, I've had the outer unit of my split heatpump stolen (for Al, $$$ to fix), I've had outdoor plumbing damaged (for Cu, $$ to fix), I've had the rim stolen[1] off the back of my parked car, last week my friend had tools stolen that they can't afford to repla…

>Society has got worse at encouraging/enforcing good society.

How you could you possibly quantify this? It's so vague to mean anything, and worse, this sort of rhetoric is the moral licensing that gets poorly thought out policies passed through congress.

>I loath surveillance capitalism, but systemically I'm unsure what the answer is.

The answer should never be to make privacy impossible, because the government will take advantage of that.

Re: Leak of San Francisco Police Drone Footage Exposes Reality of Urban Surveillance

#233

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What destroys trust is breaking it e.g. a specific group of people committing unproportional amount of crime per capita. What about profiling based on sex or age? Should there be a perfect equal amount of times a 8 year old girl or a 80 year old man be question by the police just so you can feel good about yourself?

Don't waste my time with your sophistry. We both know what you actually want to say, so stop pussyfooting around like you don't already have your bullshit 13% statistic memorized by rote and just come out and say it.

>Don't waste my time with your sophistry.

>bullshit 13%

At least your are transparent that facts and real world statistics don't matter once they clash with your ideological world view.

Re: Leak of San Francisco Police Drone Footage Exposes Reality of Urban Surveillance

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To balance it, the police need to be extremely accountable, but so far they get away with murder pretty easily...so...

I believe the post was intended to be ironic, implying that privacy isn't really a small cost.

i meant that even if you are okay with giving up privacy, the bare minimum accountability is missing from police, so it isn't really an option

Re: Leak of San Francisco Police Drone Footage Exposes Reality of Urban Surveillance

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> marginally higher petty crime rates And what is a petty crime these days? Within the last year in Woolston Lyttelton and Brighton: I've been assualted unprovoked, I've had the outer unit of my split heatpump stolen (for Al, $$$ to fix), I've had outdoor plumbing damaged (for Cu, $$ to fix), I've had the rim stolen[1] off the back of my parked car, last week my friend had tools stolen that they can't afford to repla…

>Society has got worse at encouraging/enforcing good society. How you could you possibly quantify this? It's so vague to mean anything, and worse, this sort of rhetoric is the moral licensing that gets poorly thought out policies passed through congress. >I loath surveillance capitalism, but systemically I'm unsure what the answer is. The answer should never be to make privacy impossible, because the government will…

I have more than a handful of decades personal experience which intelligently applied has value even if just a single sample of a voter.

+/-fortunately voters do matter.

I can't vote for much in the US given that I'm in New Zealand.

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