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We don't use AI in any of our design or production processes

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Re: We don't use AI in any of our design or production processes

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Post by eichin »

exmadscientist wrote: post #44
TacticalCoder wrote: post #34

Where are the voices of reason? My wife got an email from a new hire (now even a new hire yet: she's still on a trial basis), a 23 years old, where she explains that she doesn't want to use AI. That she doesn't like what AI does. On a funny sidenote: the email is obviously 99% llmish, which is hilarious. That's one extremity: crazy people who refuse to learn a new tool. Then on the other extremity you have the even m…

We're right here! Some of us just prefer to stay out of these silly irrational debates because we know that neither of those two crazy camps will listen to a word we, or anyone else, will say. We might be wrong about that (I hope we're wrong about that!) but there sure are enough other people chattering that it's easy to sit back and let them have it out.

The "you'll get left behind" crowd has already made it clear that they're not worth engaging with, you're not going to find reasonable voices anywhere those threads are happening...

Re: We don't use AI in any of our design or production processes

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Post by darkmarmot »

tony_cannistra wrote: post #47

I'm the op on this one (not the author). Gotta say, I had higher hopes for the community here. Isn't it worthwhile to examine our patterns of thinking and work? Shouldn't alternative perspectives such as these spark conversation, rather than sly jibes? HN grew from curiosity and good-faith. Y'all are not showing up.

I recently mentioned that my team and most of my dev friends don’t use AI for code on a gamdev forum (we do stuff like distributed consensus, compilers, etc.). I was quickly denounced as “an arrogant douche”.

Re: We don't use AI in any of our design or production processes

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Post by ryanthedev »

tony_cannistra wrote: post #47

I'm the op on this one (not the author). Gotta say, I had higher hopes for the community here. Isn't it worthwhile to examine our patterns of thinking and work? Shouldn't alternative perspectives such as these spark conversation, rather than sly jibes? HN grew from curiosity and good-faith. Y'all are not showing up.

I think the eye roll is the need to shout that you don’t use AI.

It’s the new web dev, imo.

This post wasn’t about sparking conversation. It’s about using AI makes me lose the human touch in what I do, blah blah, heard it all before.

Sorry, not sorry.

Re: We don't use AI in any of our design or production processes

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Post by mass-driver »

Hey, I’m the author of this article. Just thought I’d share some context, since HN is a little outside the intended audience:

- We’re a tiny design studio specialising in fonts, so our website was (maybe predictably) not set up to handle a big traffic spike. It should be stable now.

- This article was written in response to some font industry discussions on the same topic. It’s a collection of thoughts rather than a manifesto, and there’s nuance which it doesn’t go into. I’m not a die-hard AI hater, just opposed to careless use of it within this narrow field.

Appreciate the more reasonable comments!

Re: We don't use AI in any of our design or production processes

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Post by jstummbillig »

TacticalCoder wrote: post #34

Where are the voices of reason? My wife got an email from a new hire (now even a new hire yet: she's still on a trial basis), a 23 years old, where she explains that she doesn't want to use AI. That she doesn't like what AI does. On a funny sidenote: the email is obviously 99% llmish, which is hilarious. That's one extremity: crazy people who refuse to learn a new tool. Then on the other extremity you have the even m…

Everywhere, presumably, not vocal, doing other things.

Re: We don't use AI in any of our design or production processes

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Post by johnfn »

tony_cannistra wrote: post #47

I'm the op on this one (not the author). Gotta say, I had higher hopes for the community here. Isn't it worthwhile to examine our patterns of thinking and work? Shouldn't alternative perspectives such as these spark conversation, rather than sly jibes? HN grew from curiosity and good-faith. Y'all are not showing up.

Speaking personally I was not particularly moved by the article because I have seen the same thing, in different shapes, thousands of times on HN and elsewhere. Really, AI can't feel and therefore it is inferior? Never heard that one before. Really, an AI can't feel friction and therefore can't adapt to it? Daring today, aren't we? (And a more interesting question: is that even true..?) I realize I am being unnecessarily harsh here, but this article is very much preaching to the choir on HN, which has an anti-AI bent. No one is showing up because there's nothing really to show up to here -- and that is why you are left with "sly jibes" and not much else.

Re: We don't use AI in any of our design or production processes

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Post by happytoexplain »

protocolture wrote: post #33
happytoexplain wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is the point of such a clear false equivalency, aside from snideness?

What is the point of telling everyone you dont use AI aside from virtue signalling?

This genre of comment doesn't belong on HN. Please consider leaving this on other parts of the internet.

Re: We don't use AI in any of our design or production processes

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Post by protocolture »

tony_cannistra wrote: post #43
protocolture wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is the point of telling everyone you dont use AI aside from virtue signalling?

I believe we before we had "virtue signaling" we called it "sharing opinions"

Yeah this is promotion not opinion.

Re: We don't use AI in any of our design or production processes

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Post by loveiswork »

TacticalCoder wrote: post #34

Where are the voices of reason? My wife got an email from a new hire (now even a new hire yet: she's still on a trial basis), a 23 years old, where she explains that she doesn't want to use AI. That she doesn't like what AI does. On a funny sidenote: the email is obviously 99% llmish, which is hilarious. That's one extremity: crazy people who refuse to learn a new tool. Then on the other extremity you have the even m…

We're here -- I use AI for low-complexity toil, one-off scripts, search & discovery, and as a sounding board for new perspectives.

I still design and build systems almost all myself. If a snippet comes out of an LLM I'm keen to use it's filtered through my brain as well. Polished and transformed to align with my vision. After all, I'm on the hook for supporting it and bringing it to my team.

I'm sure most of us are just sick of the mania around this and choose to avoid interacting with content relating to it.

It's very useful. But irresponsible to use without recognizing and respecting its limitations.

I have > 10yoe, fwiw.

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