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Sleep regularity is a stronger predictor of mortality risk than sleep duration (2023)

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Re: Sleep regularity is a stronger predictor of mortality risk than sleep duration (2023)

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Post by annzabelle »

markus_zhang wrote: post #40

I kinda realize that the most important factor for personal success (whatever kind of success you want) is mental stability. Like, John Carmack said that he NEVER burned out, never went into a dark corner (verbatim from his interview), and everyone agrees that he works like a machine. And I don't think he actually spent a lot of mental training to achieve that stability, because, he has been like that from a young ag…

I would also argue for regular exercise as a fundamental of a stable mind. I've always been an anxious person, but since I started running 3-4 days a week consistently, my baseline neuroticism has significantly dropped.

The deep post-exercise sleep doesn't hurt.

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Post by VagabundoP »

echoangle wrote: post #250
svachalek wrote: post #224

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From your description it may be acting as a placebo -- the act of putting the pill into your mouth is what tells your subconscious to activate a sleep cycle.

Don’t jinx it

placebo works whether you believe or not and even if you know.

They are very powerful.

Re: Sleep regularity is a stronger predictor of mortality risk than sleep duration (2023)

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Post by tmule »

stronglikedan wrote: post #319
tmule wrote: post #275

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Magnesium Glycinate has been a game changer. My legs used to be tense to the point of cramping at night, and they’re now relaxed, enabling better sleep. I also use L-theanine as an additional supplement for a long duration deep sleep, and think it helps.

Interesting about the legs. I wake up with that in the middle of the night and have trouble falling back asleep because of it. Heck, if MC just took care of that , I'd be happy. Thanks for your input!

Suffered for a decade till I discovered this. I’d reached a point where I was actively skeptical about anything working, till this worked out. Good luck!

Re: Sleep regularity is a stronger predictor of mortality risk than sleep duration (2023)

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Post by annzabelle »

csomar wrote: post #13
shykes wrote: post #2

Well, I'm screwed...

Are you? Would be happy to die by 65-70 instead of struggling through 80s…

There are really different kinds of 65-70.

My parents are both 70 and very active. I often meet 65 year olds who are frail and slow with chronic pain and diabetes, when my dad is going on 50 mile bike rides a few times a week. I would hate to develop a significant health condition at 55 and be seriously ill by 60. I would much rather be healthy until my late 70s.

Re: Sleep regularity is a stronger predictor of mortality risk than sleep duration (2023)

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Post by annzabelle »

beezlebroxxxxxx wrote: post #20
elcritch wrote: post #5

Well that sucks, given I have a gene variant related to delayed sleep according to 23andme. Last year I did an experiment of sorts while unemployed for a time and found that if I just slept and woke when tired that my sleep time would naturally recess and eventually "flip" after about a month. My entire life I've wondered why I feel incredibly tired and found waking up so difficult. Turns out that if you follow your…

I've found my sleep regularity to be pretty malleable. It can become a habit. When I was in grad school I went to bed at midnight and woke up at 7am. Once I started running more in the mornings, I gradually shifted to going to sleep at 9pm and waking up at 5am. The first couple days or week will feel pretty bad, but if you give yourself enough time then you'll shift your sleep schedule around. Now I get tired at 8:30…

The only way I really made an early wake up work was wearing amber safety glasses to block blue light for an hour or two before bed every night.

I will note that if you feel absolutely terrible on 8-9 hours of sleep, you should check with a doctor about it. I have hypothyroidism and was on too low a dose of medication, and felt so tired after work that I almost drove on the wrong side of the road. I'd thought this was simply from moving my sleep schedule and getting less sleep after starting a new job, but I got a blood test for unrelated reasons and found I was hypothyroid. A couple weeks after starting the new dose of medication and I feel like a new person.

Re: Sleep regularity is a stronger predictor of mortality risk than sleep duration (2023)

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Post by hart_russell »

tsoukase wrote: post #312

Studies that reach HN and other pop places usually have a lot in common: they link a widespread, modifiable and 'catchy' factor (like sleep, sugar/meat etc consumption, human relations) with a single sensational end point (death), and involve 5/6-figures number of participants. Another common one is a huge confounding spill that makes them useless for practical decisions but valuable for further, more rigorous resear…

I think in this instance, it wouldn’t be shocking that irregular sleep would increase all cause mortality.

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Post by tetec1 »

petilon wrote: post #82

Magnesium supplementation solved my sleep issues. I have seen many doctors, including sleep specialists, regarding insomnia. They all pointed to one source as the reason for the sleep issues: stress. And they all wanted to put me on prescription sleeping pills. I said no to that. Sleeping pills can cause dependence, and they often treat the symptom rather than the underlying cause. As a software developer, I am used…

It does literally nothing for me.

Re: Sleep regularity is a stronger predictor of mortality risk than sleep duration (2023)

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Post by tetec1 »

mordae wrote: post #321
sajithdilshan wrote: post #89

My problem is that I'm always sleepy throughout the day and when I have to go to bed at nigh, then I feel so active and energetic, as if my body tries its best to avoid sleeping.

Chance is you are not breathing in your sleep. You have Apnea or UARS and are slowly suffocating. Easy tells: you look like shit in the morning and it takes hours for you to normalize, you sometimes wake up all sweaty, you tend to open window ASAP in the morning "to get rid of the stuffy air", you are confused and/or have headache in the morning. If you want to make sure, get a sleep study done. Why do you think you…

I thought I had UARS too, and did a sleep study. I couldn't sleep at all when I was there. My neurologist then just gave me fucking prozac.

It's not that simple to figure out what's going on unfortunately.

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Post by tetec1 »

sajithdilshan wrote: post #145
pjerem wrote: post #111

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I was in the same boat as you and it seems I solved it. What I did : - LSD (microdosing + a semi dose one year ago) did absolute wonders on my anxiety (which was what kept me energetic). I would then describe myself as having a general anxiety disorder and I now describe myself as chill af . It's amazing. I'm still stressed out by things but that's normal and not my default mode anymore. - Prolonged-release melatonin…

okay, I'm curious, have you build an addiction? or do you think you can keep on reducing the dose and stop using it but still have the benefits. I've read somewhere that LSD can kind of re-wire your brain

LSD actually has an anti addictive effect. There are multiple studies about it, for example on smoking cessation (IIRC). It's pretty interesting. You're unlikely to get addicted to it.
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