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Re: Grok Build is open source

#161
What a bunch of slop: 182 top-level external dependencies (so, without considering nested dependencies) and 1318853 lines of code in Rust.

Building efficient agents is doable (I did it myself, github.com/gi-dellav/zerostack), companies just want to tokenmaxx, and as a by-product, produce and publish slop.

Re: Grok Build is open source

#162

They claim to have deleted or will be deleting all the data they exfiltrated. There are independent agencies that will certify destruction of data. For example FTI Tech, Kroll, Epiq, HaystackID and others. No such certificates have been presented. Nothing less is trustworthy.

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Re: Grok Build is open source

#163
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It's Apache 2.0. You can have your agents audit it if you want. What does this release have to do with "trusting" XAI?

First, why audit it when the agent can build a new one. Second, can you guarantee that an AI company can’t use its AI to hide malicious code from AI audits. Who if not an AI company could have such an expertise? I don’t trust a company that pollutes the air of other people with illegal gas turbines because it shows the value their profit over people‘s health

Nothing you said here can't be applied to literally any company on earth. And nothing you said here is even a new concern.

Re: Grok Build is open source

#164

What a bunch of slop: 182 top-level external dependencies (so, without considering nested dependencies) and 1318853 lines of code in Rust. Building efficient agents is doable (I did it myself, github.com/gi-dellav/zerostack), companies just want to tokenmaxx, and as a by-product, produce and publish slop.

That is an insane amount of code for something like this!

Re: Grok Build is open source

#165

This is not the right thing, this is the tactical thing. If you have an LLM with less than 1% of the share to begin with, you suffer from bad rep and you got caught uploading user data, one of the very few remaining tactical moves to try to climb out of it is this.

Another tactical move is to just stop. You're allowed to exit the AI business. Nobody's forcing you to keep throwing money into the furnace. Just be a rocket company. All of the xAI founders left. Your product's brand name is mud. Just stop doing that and build spaceships.

That is probably the best solution too!

Re: Grok Build is open source

#166
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And why are you assuming the industry converged to it when your following statement dismantles your assumption? Spacex bought cursor, so it now has it’s agent ui which is just as good as codex + it’s multi-modal Anthropic also has it’s own ui Zai also launched theirs last month. Everyone is converging back to UI. The terminal was just a prototype, everyone knew that.

Claude code which is most used agent harness doesn’t have desktop equivalent

Apart from Claude desktop, that is...

Re: Grok Build is open source

#167

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But how will Musk stay a trillionaire without fake AI hype?

Renting his boatload of GPUs to Google, Anthropic, et al

He doesn't have _that_ many. And they're also not _his_, he just got them from NVidia.

Re: Grok Build is open source

#168
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Sigh, why has the industry converged on TUI? Branding and aesthetics over functionality? TUI is just much worse for me. I tried Codex CLI vs Codex UI and Codex UI beats it at every level.

And why are you assuming the industry converged to it when your following statement dismantles your assumption? Spacex bought cursor, so it now has it’s agent ui which is just as good as codex + it’s multi-modal Anthropic also has it’s own ui Zai also launched theirs last month. Everyone is converging back to UI. The terminal was just a prototype, everyone knew that.

Just a prototype? I have no reason to leave the terminal for a GUI IDE. TUI works great, does what I need and is very easy to use and interact with.

Re: Grok Build is open source

#169
post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And why are you assuming the industry converged to it when your following statement dismantles your assumption? Spacex bought cursor, so it now has it’s agent ui which is just as good as codex + it’s multi-modal Anthropic also has it’s own ui Zai also launched theirs last month. Everyone is converging back to UI. The terminal was just a prototype, everyone knew that.

Claude code which is most used agent harness doesn’t have desktop equivalent

It has had one for months. The desktop app has a "code" mode which is Claude Code in GUI form

Re: Grok Build is open source

#170

This is not the right thing, this is the tactical thing. If you have an LLM with less than 1% of the share to begin with, you suffer from bad rep and you got caught uploading user data, one of the very few remaining tactical moves to try to climb out of it is this.

Another tactical move is to just stop. You're allowed to exit the AI business. Nobody's forcing you to keep throwing money into the furnace. Just be a rocket company. All of the xAI founders left. Your product's brand name is mud. Just stop doing that and build spaceships.

The stock market would not like that, though.
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