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Re: Grok Build is open source

#104

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> Regardless of what they were doing before, it seems they are doing the right thing now. Regardless of the fact that they were stealing and uploading user secrets, they changed their behavior after they got caught, so let’s ignore what they did in the past.

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Trust is lost when trust is abused. Mistakes, even if made unintentionally are something that should make reasonable people be skeptical of any further dealings with someone.

This is not their first mistake.

Re: Grok Build is open source

#105

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Also, it's Whataboutism: Other Company Y doing something bad/untrustworthy isn't a counter to Company X doing something similarly bad/untrustworthy. Both can be bad.

OK great, do you consider Gemini/Google untrustworthy software that shouldn't be used? Just making sure we're being intellectually honest here.

Both are bad and are examples of untrustworthy behavior from their companies, and I would not chime into a thread to defend either of them. Is one example enough to smear an entire company as untrustworthy? No. But numerous examples and patterns of behavior... possibly?

Re: Grok Build is open source

#106
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Please don't just post the most obvious snarky comment about a given topic. The guidelines make it clear we're trying for something better here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Sorta amazes me how people in various levels of power will not say the obvious thing or actively discourage saying the obvious thing because it might offend Elon. Recently all the big bank CEOs involved with the SpaceX IPO - a lot of money in that for them - but a company trading at 100x sales is clearly crazy.

People post critical things about the most powerful people and companies all the time here and we have zero problem with it.

What I'm asking for is for people to not post the most obvious, snarky comment, regardless of the topic/target, not because of who it may “offend” (as if the most powerful people in the world would have any awareness or care about a comment like that on HN), but because it makes HN seem repetitive, miserable and lame.

Critique away, just make discussions thoughtful and substantive, which is what HN is for.

Re: Grok Build is open source

#107

Sigh, why has the industry converged on TUI? Branding and aesthetics over functionality? TUI is just much worse for me. I tried Codex CLI vs Codex UI and Codex UI beats it at every level.

And why are you assuming the industry converged to it when your following statement dismantles your assumption?

Spacex bought cursor, so it now has it’s agent ui which is just as good as codex + it’s multi-modal

Anthropic also has it’s own ui

Zai also launched theirs last month.

Everyone is converging back to UI.

The terminal was just a prototype, everyone knew that.

Re: Grok Build is open source

#108
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Your choice is Anthropic, OpenAI, Google, or the Chinese. Who are the good actors within the space?

The Chinese are surely less evil than Anthropic, OpenAI and/or Google, at this stage at least.

You’ve got to be kidding me. Last I checked, Anthropic, OpenAI, and Google haven’t systematically exterminated an entire culture of people.

Re: Grok Build is open source

#109

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> Regardless of what they were doing before, it seems they are doing the right thing now. Regardless of the fact that they were stealing and uploading user secrets, they changed their behavior after they got caught, so let’s ignore what they did in the past.

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Re: Grok Build is open source

#110

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> Regardless of what they were doing before, it seems they are doing the right thing now. Regardless of the fact that they were stealing and uploading user secrets, they changed their behavior after they got caught, so let’s ignore what they did in the past.

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I should try to rob a bank and if I get caught just return the money. No, there needs to be a penalty above what you get, otherwise it encourages people to take the free option of bad behavior. If they get caught they go back as though nothing happened and if they don’t they get a bunch of traces / data.
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