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Stripe and Advent have made a joint offer to acquire PayPal – sources

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Re: Stripe and Advent have made a joint offer to acquire PayPal – sources

#131
post #65

I'm not sure I like this idea. Braintree is a legit competitor to Stripe. I'm guessing they have some informal agreement to keep transaction fees about the same but if they become 1 company, what's to stop Stripe from raising fees even more? I'm not a fan of either to be honest, PayPal once told me I was wrong with something related to taxes and a bunch of different reps told me what I was saying and reported was imp…

> what's to stop Stripe from raising fees even more?

There's a big amount of competitors for card processing. Just because they aren't well known within tech circles doesn't mean they don't exist.

Re: Stripe and Advent have made a joint offer to acquire PayPal – sources

#133
post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do people think this? Since when do giant corporations care about morals? As usual, everything is about money. You can be sure that part of the interest in a paypal acquisition is paypal's consumer wallet product which allows them to extend into lines of business that are currently constrained by Stripe's model.

Or, because as you say it's money (I agree) the Stripe will put their "morals" in place - with the financial result they reduce risk, get less chargebacks and lower costs - then pass the savings on to the C-suite. Morals, generously interpretation of the usage, was just to indicate that Stripe has a more narrow risk window. Only an idiot would think it was about actual human-grade morals or ethics. Let alone that the…

Yes, hence the value of an acquisition that has found a way to service these lines of business very profitably.

The tone of your original comment suggests you believe they're going to take over and start shutting off morally unacceptable money printers.

Re: Stripe and Advent have made a joint offer to acquire PayPal – sources

#134
Extremely weak bid, no?

PayPal was worth 5x this a few years ago... Even pre-pandemic it was worth far more. Hell, just a year ago it was valued at ~$80 share.

$60.50 per share would value them at just 11x their current earnings. I get PayPal isn't exactly a growth company anymore, but I'm not sure I understand why shareholders would agree to this offer?

Re: Stripe and Advent have made a joint offer to acquire PayPal – sources

#135
post #34

PayPal user for 20+ years and it is time to end that dross

Nah, I hate them with a passion as a merchant but I absolutely love them as a buyer and customer. There is a reason why after all these years and other solutions they're still everywhere, and it's not because of their great tooling, their low fees or their awesome support for merchant. It's not because of market lock in either, at least here in Europe they're merely a middle man between my credit card or sepa bank ac…

As a buyer, I like something that's good for the merchant, because 99% of the time I'm buying from merchants who I trust way more than I trust the other buyers. Don't even want credit card middlemen if I have the choice.

Re: Stripe and Advent have made a joint offer to acquire PayPal – sources

#137

I'm not sure how this is a good thing. There are already very limited options to accept payments online, consolidating two of the major ones is not a great thing.

There are many options. If you make a lot of online payments, you'll see myriad payment processors.

Re: Stripe and Advent have made a joint offer to acquire PayPal – sources

#138

This would be amazing! Its such a pain having to set up two payment solutions as a merchant and as a buyer it would be great if I could use my paypal credit on whatever purchase I want. Consumers want paypal and merchant want stripe. I really want this to happen.

PayPal has been a payment option offered by Stripe for merchants for a while now. I don't know if there's more setting up than clicking the activation button.

Re: Stripe and Advent have made a joint offer to acquire PayPal – sources

#139
post #114
post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my experience, having worked at several large PSPs, it is Mastercard and Visa who are the morality police. Stripe are just enforcing the rules insisted on by them, and PayPal forgot about them 3 layoffs ago.

Then how do other processors go over the Visa and MC rails for these transaction types? How does Stripe allow some and then block others?

Simply put, Stripe doesn't want to deal with the risk associated with those transaction types.

Re: Stripe and Advent have made a joint offer to acquire PayPal – sources

#140
post #132

Trying to create a monopoly before the lack of antitrust enforcement window closes.

If there is a cartel it's at the Visa & Mastercard layer surely.

I can't wait for Europe to come up with an alternative for Visa & Mastercard.

European business pay a "hidden" tax to the US on everything, in the form of Visa & Mastercard commissions.

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