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Global Warming at 3 °C by 2050? What's Behind the New German Climate Warning

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Re: Global Warming at 3 °C by 2050? What's Behind the New German Climate Warning

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This is the most important part most people don't get: > And what would 3 °C mean for Germany? > FB: In summer, meteorological records could reach up to 50 °C. Three degrees of global warming does not mean hot days will just be 3 or 4 degrees hotter. It could mean up to 10 degrees hotter. We would also face much longer droughts. 3°C warming implies summer days can get 10°C hotter. This is nightmare scenario.

For us Imperialists, 10C is 50F.

We would, quite literally, be cooked. That'd leave us with summers around 140-150F.

Re: Global Warming at 3 °C by 2050? What's Behind the New German Climate Warning

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UK official body of actuaries basically says we are on trajectory of "Extreme" rating: > 3°C or more by 2050. Multiple climate tipping points triggered, tipping cascade. > over 4 billion deaths If so, big shifts would already be imminently felt within next 5-10 years. Remember that there would basically be no place to hide from these direct or knock-on effects. Not for any self sufficient "prepper with a Mac Studio"…

> there will basically no place to hide from these direct or any knock-on effects This is nonsense. (And your own source doesn't support the claim that the consequences of global warming will be unmitigable for anyone.) Many parts of the world will become milder for human occupation as a result of climate change. And nothing realistically forecast is unavoidable with wealth–rich countries will A/C and seawall their w…

Your perspective is considering only temperature by geography.

Please also consider infectious disease and famine throughout the world.

You can hide from the temperature. You will have a harder time hiding from war and disease.

Re: Global Warming at 3 °C by 2050? What's Behind the New German Climate Warning

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One of the most important solutions is never taken seriously enough, because most people are just big children: eat less meat.

Encouraging people to eat more from aquafarming is better for the environment. Getting people to change culture and diet is never going to be easy, and the difficulty of getting people to eat more food from the ocean or plants will likely be very similar.

Re: Global Warming at 3 °C by 2050? What's Behind the New German Climate Warning

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

China is not rapidly de-carbonizing. They've put off even starting to transition to clean energy by 15 years and they lag behind the other nations. They shouldnt be where the US is as the US has done an awful job. They should be where the EU is.

In 2025 China installed more solar than the US has, and almost more than what the EU has in total. About the same for wind. So yes they're doing it an extreme pace compared to US/EU as we're comparing 1 year to what the EU/US has done for decades.

ok and in 2025 they installed more coal than the US and EU has in total whats your point?

Re: Global Warming at 3 °C by 2050? What's Behind the New German Climate Warning

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In 2025 China installed more solar than the US has, and almost more than what the EU has in total. About the same for wind. So yes they're doing it an extreme pace compared to US/EU as we're comparing 1 year to what the EU/US has done for decades.

ok and in 2025 they installed more coal than the US and EU has in total whats your point?

That your initial point is wrong? They are installing massive amounts of renewable.

Not sure what your point is, just posting lies?

Re: Global Warming at 3 °C by 2050? What's Behind the New German Climate Warning

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This is the most important part most people don't get: > And what would 3 °C mean for Germany? > FB: In summer, meteorological records could reach up to 50 °C. Three degrees of global warming does not mean hot days will just be 3 or 4 degrees hotter. It could mean up to 10 degrees hotter. We would also face much longer droughts. 3°C warming implies summer days can get 10°C hotter. This is nightmare scenario.

For us Imperialists, 10C is 50F. We would, quite literally, be cooked. That'd leave us with summers around 140-150F.

> For us Imperialists, 10C is 50F.

That's nowhere near close to correct.

Re: Global Warming at 3 °C by 2050? What's Behind the New German Climate Warning

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If we don’t do something about this, I fear future generations will not view us in a positive light.

On the path we're on I don't think we'll have to worry too much about future generations. The EU has already seeing 10,000 excess deaths from climate changed caused heat waves and this is a minuscule taste of what's to come. A very large percentage of mass extinction events have their roots in increased atmospheric CO2, but all of them on dramatically increased time scales. The closest thing in the history of the pla…

The excess deaths from heat/cold are a rounding error compared to the demographic crisis in developed countries.

People aren't getting together and having children at even replacement rate (2.1)

The OECD developed countries population basically peaked a few years ago, even including migration. After the peak, they're on track to lose 300-350 million people in the following 40-50 years.

Re: Global Warming at 3 °C by 2050? What's Behind the New German Climate Warning

#189

This is the most important part most people don't get: > And what would 3 °C mean for Germany? > FB: In summer, meteorological records could reach up to 50 °C. Three degrees of global warming does not mean hot days will just be 3 or 4 degrees hotter. It could mean up to 10 degrees hotter. We would also face much longer droughts. 3°C warming implies summer days can get 10°C hotter. This is nightmare scenario.

For us Imperialists, 10C is 50F. We would, quite literally, be cooked. That'd leave us with summers around 140-150F.

No, it’s 18°F. This is a temperature difference, not an absolute temperature, the conversion isn’t the same.

Re: Global Warming at 3 °C by 2050? What's Behind the New German Climate Warning

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, it's crazy how successful that particular piece of propaganda is. The conservative CDU is responsible for the decommissioning of nuclear plants, while the Greens extended the lifetime of the remaining plants . It's literally the other way around, but people don't question it - it feels too good to complain about the Greens, right?

It’s successful because it belies the unseriousness that some of even the strongest proponents of the crisis can have. I’m an environmentalist. This has been a crisis my entire life. I’m happy for nuclear to be a solution exactly because it’s a crisis . Do I think it’s the best choice long run? No. It has externalities that are concerning. However, it’s a serious crisis, so go ahead and build them if it can help. I’m…

It's fine if that's your takeaway as long as you're aware of the full context. I'm just tired of people misrepresenting the situation as "the German Greens made Germany demolish their nuclear plants"! Large enough parts of the population were scared of nuclear accidents, so the conservative CDU used the nuclear exit as a way of garnering votes in the then-upcoming election.

You might argue that this fear is unfounded and dumb, and again, I won't disagree. But it's not the German Green's stupidity, it's the German population's stupidity. That's why I think it's important to mention this fact every time - otherwise it will be used to fearmonger about "environmentalists want to de-industrialize and go back to living in mud huts!"

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