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Re: Telegram Serverless

#92
I always wondered how telegram could afford being free. A chat is expensive to run, a chat with gigantic media quotas even more, and they don't have ads.

There is no way their premium plan cover their cost, espacially with their extensive bot API that multiplies their traffic tenfold.

And now they add free hosting of bots on top?

How the hell are they doing that?

Re: Telegram Serverless

#93
post #35

Good lord. This reeks of LLM... why should I use your product when you can't be bothered to have a human write it? Why should I trust it to work correctly or have been decently tested, neither of which is a given when having an AI vibe-code it? And why is it one huge single page of word salad instead of self-contained units? Anyway, good to see someone post a fully self contained example demonstrating core concepts.…

Sounds like it's free, so, why the hate? May as well have zero docs. I don't think they're trying to convince you of anything.

If they can't be bothered to write it , why should I be bothered to read it?

Re: Telegram Serverless

#94

I always wondered how telegram could afford being free. A chat is expensive to run, a chat with gigantic media quotas even more, and they don't have ads. There is no way their premium plan cover their cost, espacially with their extensive bot API that multiplies their traffic tenfold. And now they add free hosting of bots on top? How the hell are they doing that?

Apparently advertisement and premium membership.

Re: Telegram Serverless

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The have a massive advertising business, and charge for premium accounts. Not sure what makes you doubt them when other platforms, like Signal, have zero business model and are just providing services "out of the goodness of their heart" (not suspicious at all).

I want to understand the business model behind this specific feature.

Probably doesn't cost much at all to run some servers to spin up javascript functions, compared to their massive storage costs. It's at best a fraction of a percent of total costs.

Whether or not they (or discord for that matter) can sustain a profitable business in the long term is another question.

Re: Telegram Serverless

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Out of curiosity - how did you figure this out? I cannot find any hints about that. Was it the language used?

Have you ever “wired” anything to anything else when developing software? No, because software doesn’t involve wires, but LLMs are quite convinced that it does.

Depends on your background. If you're an EE dabbling in writing software, using the verb wire for connecting a couple of libraries together rather than "pipe" or "glue" seems entirely reasonable to me.

Re: Telegram Serverless

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This is cool. I wish Signal had a bot API like telegram's.

I use a signal api on a daily basis for all my agentic chatting and notifications about energy prices and server downtime notification. Setup was quick enough but it needs a real phone number once during setup which is kind of a hassle. still better than using telegram which has no encryption for the bot backend so the devs can read everything you write

Your case is basically the first thing messenger developers try to cover with their Bot API. Of course it works great. I would be surprised if it is not.

No one talking about security, but I cannot argue that Telegram has by far the most powerful bot platform. People do with it great stuff.

Re: Telegram Serverless

#100
post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you ever “wired” anything to anything else when developing software? No, because software doesn’t involve wires, but LLMs are quite convinced that it does.

Depends on your background. If you're an EE dabbling in writing software, using the verb wire for connecting a couple of libraries together rather than "pipe" or "glue" seems entirely reasonable to me.

What about “connect”?
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