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Why I Left Google DeepMind

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Re: Why I Left Google DeepMind

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Post by wilg »

Chance-Device wrote: post #16
tomrod wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you might be accidentally or willingly misunderstanding the context if that is your takeaway -- no one, neither immigrant nor innocent bystander, should be killed because administrative warrants are being enforced. And ICE doesn't require hundreds of individuals deployed to one place. There simply was never a reason for such a surge. EDIT: to the dead comment below -- your comment doesn't have to meet my appr…

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Well one way you can understand why the poster finds it controversial would be to read it before commenting.

Re: Why I Left Google DeepMind

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Post by worldthruword »

awakeasleep wrote: post #5
bigyabai wrote: post #2

> Even if Google had adopted your Framework, the Pentagon would have refused > I agree. xAI would still have given over their AI. But if Google had given signs of independence earlier, it could perhaps have built a coalition with OpenAI and Anthropic. This is like saying that Google and Apple might build a coalition to prevent App Store regulation. These are competitors , they all see moral flexibility as an advantag…

Competitors often wish they didn't have to compete. For example, a cartel is "a group of independent market participants who collaborate with each other and avoid competition in order to improve profits and dominate the market" It's something that could happen in this world, through the collective action of employees, that corporate strategy can be changed.

I hope he becomes the seed crystal around which crystallization of peaceful use of AI happens.

Re: Why I Left Google DeepMind

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Post by draw_down »

> Jeff Dean ... and other senior employees pledged to “neither participate in nor support the development, manufacture, trade, or use of lethal autonomous weapons.” Google signed the classified deal, yet they remain.

> I think he could have stopped the deal, yet he did not. He remains, yet I think he should not.

Is Jeff Dean still considered a saint at Google? If so, how come this doesn't change that? The amicus was enough?

Re: Why I Left Google DeepMind

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Post by boston_clone »

spwa4 wrote: post #7

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your straw man is misrepresenting the scale of violence ICE has inflicted on communities across the country. the article states it was after Alex Pirettis death that he was inspired to act. ICE has killed many people across the country during activities which they have no business conducting. A man in Houston was killed last week, then days later, another in Maine. They’ve shot citizens and fabricated evidence to cover up their actions in multiple instances.

Wake the fuck up and stop trying to whatabout your way to a more comfortable mental state.

Re: Why I Left Google DeepMind

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Post by fastball »

tomrod wrote: post #14
Chance-Device wrote: post #10

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I think you might be accidentally or willingly misunderstanding the context if that is your takeaway -- no one, neither immigrant nor innocent bystander, should be killed because administrative warrants are being enforced. And ICE doesn't require hundreds of individuals deployed to one place. There simply was never a reason for such a surge. EDIT: to the dead comment below -- your comment doesn't have to meet my appr…

Is the idea that with worse technology, DHS will kill fewer people?

Re: Why I Left Google DeepMind

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Post by Chance-Device »

tomrod wrote: post #14
Chance-Device wrote: post #10

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I think you might be accidentally or willingly misunderstanding the context if that is your takeaway -- no one, neither immigrant nor innocent bystander, should be killed because administrative warrants are being enforced. And ICE doesn't require hundreds of individuals deployed to one place. There simply was never a reason for such a surge. EDIT: to the dead comment below -- your comment doesn't have to meet my appr…

What would you do instead?

Re: Why I Left Google DeepMind

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Post by mantas »

questionableans wrote: post #23
Chance-Device wrote: post #10

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It’s because the way it’s being done in the US is unnecessarily brutal and arbitrarily discriminates more against people from certain countries.

Vast majority of people against it seem to be against the principle, not against the implementation.
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