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smugglerFlynn wrote: post #99

> My goals for the end of 2027 are as follows: > Stop making stupid mistakes. I want to be able to finish a task fully without missing or skipping a step. One way to do this is to make a plan for everything you do, and only do that thing. Nothing else. If you are neurodivergent or have other things influencing you mentally, you are _NOT_ going to snap out of it. You are not going to just build a better planning syste…

Volunteer. Always had good experiences with it and made some nice memories and connections I would not have otherwise.

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shimman wrote: post #119
brightball wrote: post #112

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You don't need to go to church to find community, a better response would be what you're saying but something where you don't pressure people to join an institution that might be extremely hostile to women or minorities. Anyone can find a community nearby, churches aren't the only way. Glad it worked out for you, but it doesn't for many people and that's okay. There are other communities out there. Also Church is no…

> might be extremely hostile to women or minorities

This isn't accurate at all. Christian churches welcome everyone but there are no zoning laws directing people to specific churches. Many happen to be very homogeneous as a side effect of people often being more comfortable. There are numerous "black", "hispanic", "chinese", etc churches that are out there by perception but not by requirement. None of these churches are going to turn you away if you don't look like them anymore than a predominantly white church would.

Regarding women, I'm not sure what you've been reading to make that suggestion? There's probably no institution in the world that cares for women more than the Christian church. Strong families are part of the bedrock. Visit one on Mother's Day sometime. Check out the low cost and sometimes even free child care available (Mother's morning out, VBC, etc). Jesus treatment of women was radical in the context of the time period.

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operatingthetan wrote: post #129
brightball wrote: post #112

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The solution to neurodivergence is church? I'm sorry but come on, this blatant proselytizing is not appropriate here.

Headline was mental health. I'm just offering one more suggestion for the OP to consider.

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Post by brightball »

pibaker wrote: post #132
brightball wrote: post #112

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What's going on with all the open proselytizing on HN these days? I don't remember seeing them five years ago but now in every thread about personal struggles there is someone trying to convert people. Always to the same religion, too. Edit: some people have replied saying why religion is helpful. Ok. But that doesn't answer my question of why is it showing up so much on HN lately.

That's probably because the religion itself naturally results in trying to help others.

Re: Prioritize mental health, and why communication is so important

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Post by operatingthetan »

brightball wrote: post #143
operatingthetan wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The solution to neurodivergence is church? I'm sorry but come on, this blatant proselytizing is not appropriate here.

Headline was mental health. I'm just offering one more suggestion for the OP to consider.

Go read the comment you responded to again.

Re: Prioritize mental health, and why communication is so important

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Post by shimman »

brightball wrote: post #142
shimman wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't need to go to church to find community, a better response would be what you're saying but something where you don't pressure people to join an institution that might be extremely hostile to women or minorities. Anyone can find a community nearby, churches aren't the only way. Glad it worked out for you, but it doesn't for many people and that's okay. There are other communities out there. Also Church is no…

> might be extremely hostile to women or minorities This isn't accurate at all. Christian churches welcome everyone but there are no zoning laws directing people to specific churches. Many happen to be very homogeneous as a side effect of people often being more comfortable. There are numerous "black", "hispanic", "chinese", etc churches that are out there by perception but not by requirement. None of these churches…

Sorry man you can't honestly say this in the US. Especially since many churches blur the political lines and advocate for things like taking away women bodily autonomy (being anti-abortion), want to take away the right to vote from women (trad wife nonsense), openly attack children (yes attacking trans children is attacking children), believe that the civil rights act was a mistake.

Glad you go to a good church, but some of them ain't that and refusing to believe this is extremely dishonest. Especially when people like Jerry Falwell had open disdain towards certain Americans right up to his death while having major influence with several US presidents.

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Post by alwa »

operatingthetan wrote: post #129
brightball wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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The solution to neurodivergence is church? I'm sorry but come on, this blatant proselytizing is not appropriate here.

I feel like that presumes that neurodivergence is in fact the “problem” or the underlying concern.

Which it might be, and it might not be—any more than we can conclude that the solution to “my throat hurts” is “take antibiotics.” (If it’s bacterial, that could cure it near-instantly; if it’s viral, it won’t do anything and might hurt in the aggregate)

In that analogy, to my thinking, church is maybe like “gargle some salt water”—the underlying biological processes may or may not be addressable by modern medicine, and you should probably talk to the doctor too—but the salt water may well make you feel better regardless.

And some people hate salt! More power to them! But I’m not coming at the folk remedy person for offering “have you thought about it.”

For that matter “church” can take many forms, even ostensibly secular ones. My raver friends, for example, speak of the dance floor as “church,” and think about it rather explicitly in terms of spiritual reconnection.

Sometimes the secular and the organized churches even cross paths…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guilherme_Peixoto

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Post by alwa »

pibaker wrote: post #132
brightball wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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What's going on with all the open proselytizing on HN these days? I don't remember seeing them five years ago but now in every thread about personal struggles there is someone trying to convert people. Always to the same religion, too. Edit: some people have replied saying why religion is helpful. Ok. But that doesn't answer my question of why is it showing up so much on HN lately.

Feels a lot more like an offer than a hard sell to me.

I do sense the same thing you do, though; that there’s something of a religious revival swelling, at least in the West that’s overwhelmingly represented here:

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2025/10/20/growing-shar...

Economist via archive: https://archive.ph/M7NW0

Re: Prioritize mental health, and why communication is so important

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Post by bsoles »

brightball wrote: post #112
smugglerFlynn wrote: post #99

> My goals for the end of 2027 are as follows: > Stop making stupid mistakes. I want to be able to finish a task fully without missing or skipping a step. One way to do this is to make a plan for everything you do, and only do that thing. Nothing else. If you are neurodivergent or have other things influencing you mentally, you are _NOT_ going to snap out of it. You are not going to just build a better planning syste…

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Are we talking about the same church where children were raped, "witches" were burned, non-believers were tortured, gays are demonized, women are treated as lower beings, ..? Yeah, so good for our souls?

Re: Prioritize mental health, and why communication is so important

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Post by brightball »

shimman wrote: post #146
brightball wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> might be extremely hostile to women or minorities This isn't accurate at all. Christian churches welcome everyone but there are no zoning laws directing people to specific churches. Many happen to be very homogeneous as a side effect of people often being more comfortable. There are numerous "black", "hispanic", "chinese", etc churches that are out there by perception but not by requirement. None of these churches…

Sorry man you can't honestly say this in the US. Especially since many churches blur the political lines and advocate for things like taking away women bodily autonomy (being anti-abortion), want to take away the right to vote from women (trad wife nonsense), openly attack children (yes attacking trans children is attacking children), believe that the civil rights act was a mistake. Glad you go to a good church, but…

You have a differing point of view. That doesn't make churches hostile to women. A lot of this seems like Reddit stuff, but I'll address anyway.

> women bodily autonomy (being anti-abortion)

Pro-life has never been anti-women and this is a political hot button topic that isn't getting settled on HN. The conceived child has it's own life, it's own DNA and the goal is to protect that life. If the baby is a girl, then pro-life is the only real pro-woman stance. Churches also offer extensive support for mothers, single-mothers and their families.

> want to take away the right to vote from women

I have no response to this other than...what stuff are you reading on the internet? This is nonsense.

> openly attack children (yes attacking trans children is attacking children)

Nobody attacks children. This is not a church topic. Protecting children is a church topic. Children are innocent.

> believing the civil rights act was a mistake

Again, I have no idea what you're reading on the internet but this is not something that comes from church. I vaguely remember some political agitator in the last couple of years going viral for saying something to this regard and then it went away.

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