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Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k

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Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k

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Post by latchkey »

traceroute66 wrote: post #155
latchkey wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You would not be in a position to call 911 then, would you. I never said anything about being alone.

> I never said anything about being alone. I would humbly suggest that you are moving the goalposts. It was implied in your what-if post, i.e. "I fractured my femur in the skate park, but what if I was in a remote location". You can also get cheap satellite dumb-phones with pay-as-you-go SIM cards. No need to be tied to a Starlink sub if your primary concern is about being able to summon help in an emergency in a rem…

Now you're just nitpicking to try to prove some point about calling 911?

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Post by netdur »

anvuong wrote: post #151
khurs wrote: post #41

There will be many price increases seeing as: -SpaceX raised $75bn in the IPO which will only last so long for a loss making high capital requirements company. -Then $25bn via bonds which have an annual interest rate repayment of $1.46 billion + repayment of the $25b (depending on bond length in years 2031,33,36,46 and 2056) -Morgan Stanley said: "In our model, we estimate SpaceX raising an average of $72bn annually…

Holy cow how can they raise over $70B every year for 8 years straight? Who is investing this much?

basically investors interested in long term and see how spacex the only one in game

Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k

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Post by initatus »

netdur wrote: post #162
anvuong wrote: post #151

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Holy cow how can they raise over $70B every year for 8 years straight? Who is investing this much?

basically investors interested in long term and see how spacex the only one in game

> spacex the only one in game

But there are many ai companies!

/s, but only kinda

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Post by beAbU »

TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #145
croes wrote: post #20

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Even if invented, what is the advantage of orbit data centers?

No planning restrictions. Throw up as many as you can afford to build and launch. No grid strain because they're self-powered. And they're likely out of national jurisdictions, so you can generate all the porn you want. Technologically? Maaaaaybe a slight ping time reduction in certain configurations compared to terrestrial fiber, because even with multiple hops lasers can still be faster than fiber. Super-expensive,…

Why cant we have self powered DC's on earth?

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Post by matwood »

fallingbananna wrote: post #152
theturtletalks wrote: post #107

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Why would they not charge as much as possible? Who else is launching satellites? He’s got one of the biggest moats I’ve ever seen.

I don't know who else is launching satellites, but many airlines do offer wifi, often via partnerships with telco companies. It's just expensive and slow. So the only moat I see (as a layman) is the speed and capacity. The one flight that I was on that had Starlink, had better internet during the flight, than most airports have on the ground.

> The one flight that I was on that had Starlink, had better internet during the flight, than most airports have on the ground.

When it comes to internet, this IS the moat.

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Post by SoftTalker »

fallingbananna wrote: post #152
theturtletalks wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would they not charge as much as possible? Who else is launching satellites? He’s got one of the biggest moats I’ve ever seen.

I don't know who else is launching satellites, but many airlines do offer wifi, often via partnerships with telco companies. It's just expensive and slow. So the only moat I see (as a layman) is the speed and capacity. The one flight that I was on that had Starlink, had better internet during the flight, than most airports have on the ground.

Passengers who want en route internet will demand it. The cost won't matter because that will be expensed. They will want the performance.

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Post by matwood »

throwitaway222 wrote: post #73
BoppreH wrote: post #3

Note that this is for the "aviation plan" which already requires six-digits equipment.

Starlink should probably reverse course on this however, it's one thing to pay 10k for up to 20 guests on a small private jet vs a company like Delta with a fleet of 747s. Charge Delta 20k, charge this guy 10k.

> Starlink should probably reverse course on this

Why? Rich people flying private want to be connected and Starlink is the most reliable game in town. "Do you have Starlink?" is probably already being asked by those booking private.

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Post by scottyah »

grim_io wrote: post #154
scottyah wrote: post #94

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I think it'd be easier for Starlink to start building and deploying wide area ground stations (like 5g towers or something) to serve urban areas than it would take all the other telcos to deploy satellites.

Why are the satellites required at all? Telcos manage many multiples of Starlink's traffic just fine over terrestrial high-bandwidth optic fiber.

They really don't manage the traffic well over terrestrial lines for the globe, that's why starlink, iridium, viasat, even directv have all used satellites. Billions of taxpayer money and even more private funding have been devoted to bringing lines to rural areas and the area covered is still so small.

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Post by scottyah »

Alpha3031 wrote: post #111
scottyah wrote: post #94

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I think it'd be easier for Starlink to start building and deploying wide area ground stations (like 5g towers or something) to serve urban areas than it would take all the other telcos to deploy satellites.

Why in the world would any MNO or WISP choose satellite backhaul for urban areas when their next tower is presumably only a few kilometres over (as opposed to tens of kilometres in more regional areas)?

I don't know, that's an interesting, albeit unrelated question. Do you have an answer?

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Post by scottyah »

bakies wrote: post #108
mattmaroon wrote: post #22

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Their potential customer base is literally everybody because they are the only ISP that can cover the entire globe. Everybody’s potential customer base is technically limited because there are only so many humans, but they have the least limited potential customer base of anything that exists.

if you're in a city (where most people live) it'll never be cheaper to get this than fiber

Tell that to the Ukrainians and Syrians.
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