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Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k

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Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k

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Post by kingleopold »

mattmaroon wrote: post #22
justapassenger wrote: post #17

I’m pretty sure rest of starlink customers will get similar treatment in the future. Their potential customer base is limited and it’s only ISP that literately burns their backbone network every few years and has to replace to keep it running. On top of that, their claims it’s profitable does some heavy lifting with how to account for the cost of launching rockets. It’s extremely cool product and very useful for many…

Their potential customer base is literally everybody because they are the only ISP that can cover the entire globe. Everybody’s potential customer base is technically limited because there are only so many humans, but they have the least limited potential customer base of anything that exists.

At some point in next decade they can literally be the biggest ISP by far, insane potential always. It's all about how long it takes to get there

Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k

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Post by runarberg »

latchkey wrote: post #76
mauvehaus wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What harm are you worried about coming to in the middle of a national forest that having the internet could possibly save you from? You're in a van, for heaven's sakes. You can roll up the windows, lock the doors, and/or drive off from most dangers save a breakdown or a wildfire, and the internet won't save you from a wildfire. I've tent camped a lot on forest service land (and BLM land) both out west and in the east…

i can think of 1000 reasons to need to call for help. heck, two months ago i fell on my skateboard and shattered my femur at the hip. it sure was nice to be able to call 911 and have someone come pick me up given that i couldn't drive anywhere. my van was parked right at the skatepark and there was no way i was going to drive. obviously not skating in a national park, but it isn't out of the question to not have a ma…

If American infrastructure is in such a bad shape that it requires starlink to make emergency calls, then I think we have bigger problems.

And please, when you go hiking, download and print all the maps you need before you depart, and share a detailed plan with somebody able to call help, including a time estimate where you will make contact.

As for work. Please just take time off and take a proper vacation. By being constantly on call you will burn out at a much faster rate.

Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k

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Post by bakies »

mauvehaus wrote: post #61
latchkey wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it has already gone up in price two times since i got mine. i still happily pay for the convenience and safety of having internet on my campervan in the middle of a national forest. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

What harm are you worried about coming to in the middle of a national forest that having the internet could possibly save you from? You're in a van, for heaven's sakes. You can roll up the windows, lock the doors, and/or drive off from most dangers save a breakdown or a wildfire, and the internet won't save you from a wildfire. I've tent camped a lot on forest service land (and BLM land) both out west and in the east…

also all the flagship phones have emergency satellite connections now, so it's not even the emergency bit, it's just about having full broadband internet

Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k

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Post by Alpha3031 »

StephenMelon wrote: post #69
novafunc wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but the primary reason for Starlink is for areas with poor traditional ISPs. If you had a choice between Fiber or Starlink, you’d choose Fiber. So as traditional ISPs improve service and coverage, Starlink becomes less in demand.

The killer app is military usage, so they just need enough consumer and b2b demand to keep what they charge governments within what they can justify to taxpayers

Which militaries are you thinking and how much do you anticipate them spending and/or being willing to try and justify?

Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k

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Post by ruszki »

mattmaroon wrote: post #22
justapassenger wrote: post #17

I’m pretty sure rest of starlink customers will get similar treatment in the future. Their potential customer base is limited and it’s only ISP that literately burns their backbone network every few years and has to replace to keep it running. On top of that, their claims it’s profitable does some heavy lifting with how to account for the cost of launching rockets. It’s extremely cool product and very useful for many…

Their potential customer base is literally everybody because they are the only ISP that can cover the entire globe. Everybody’s potential customer base is technically limited because there are only so many humans, but they have the least limited potential customer base of anything that exists.

First, they would need global coverage for that. Because looking at this map tells a different story: https://starlink.com/gb/map

It’s still the best option, but far from “global”. Also Iran is an obvious lie with that “coming soon” color, so god knows what else isn’t true on this.

Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k

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Post by theturtletalks »

throwitaway222 wrote: post #73
BoppreH wrote: post #3

Note that this is for the "aviation plan" which already requires six-digits equipment.

Starlink should probably reverse course on this however, it's one thing to pay 10k for up to 20 guests on a small private jet vs a company like Delta with a fleet of 747s. Charge Delta 20k, charge this guy 10k.

Why would they not charge as much as possible? Who else is launching satellites? He’s got one of the biggest moats I’ve ever seen.

Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k

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Post by bakies »

mattmaroon wrote: post #22
justapassenger wrote: post #17

I’m pretty sure rest of starlink customers will get similar treatment in the future. Their potential customer base is limited and it’s only ISP that literately burns their backbone network every few years and has to replace to keep it running. On top of that, their claims it’s profitable does some heavy lifting with how to account for the cost of launching rockets. It’s extremely cool product and very useful for many…

Their potential customer base is literally everybody because they are the only ISP that can cover the entire globe. Everybody’s potential customer base is technically limited because there are only so many humans, but they have the least limited potential customer base of anything that exists.

if you're in a city (where most people live) it'll never be cheaper to get this than fiber

Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k

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Post by 0cf8612b2e1e »

naturalmovement wrote: post #96
Cyberdogs7 wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So we should let companies do what ever anti-consumer practices they want, because you don't like the group they are doing it to? Should a car company be allowed to charge you an extra fee every time you have a passenger?

If you need a specialized amphibious vehicle to get to your shack in the woods, it's not anti-consumer if it costs you more than a Mitsubishi Mirage.

The world is more than rich tech bros living in the woods. Normal income people also wanted to use this service without being bankrupted.

Rural homes do have roads that can be reached on a rusty pickup.

Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k

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Post by scottyah »

epistasis wrote: post #28

Gotta pay the massive coupons on SpaceX's bonds, whose yields are heading towards junk territory: https://www.ft.com/content/3a023b95-66c3-41e1-b0ce-df752a499... Having just flown some flights with Starlink internet connection, I really love the service, it's just amazing. But the rugpull here might actually break through the distortion field of Musk. It's really interesting to compare the reality distortion fields o…

At the end of the day, there's the people who can make a vastly superior product time and time again, and they all like to work with other people who can do the same. They like to be pushed, they love solving hard problems, hate bureaucracy, and will find leaders that can accommodate all that. Elon provides that the same as Steve did.
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