US House of Representatives takes step to make daylight saving time permanent

Post by rconti » Wed, Jul 15, 2026, 5:02 PM UTC

Auracle wrote: post #68

For night owls and teenagers, who already have a hard time in society, Daylight Saving Time makes things far worse. It’s been tried and failed, already, primarily due to school/kids issues. The sun will rise really, really late in the dead of winter in some places. Sleep experts are all pretty much in agreement that permanent Standard Time is better. I’d be all for permanent Standard Time but there’s no way that’ll h…

Post by Sindisil » Wed, Jul 15, 2026, 5:11 PM UTC

Ar-Curunir wrote: post #44

Sindisil wrote: post #9

As usual, when Congress finally moves to address an issue, they manage to do it in the stupidest possible way. Permanent Standard Time is the better choice in nearly every way.

Why so? Having more time in the evening after work is way better. Getting out of work and it already being dark is depressing.

Post by throw0101d » Wed, Jul 15, 2026, 5:22 PM UTC

rconti wrote: post #92

Auracle wrote: post #68

For night owls and teenagers, who already have a hard time in society, Daylight Saving Time makes things far worse. It’s been tried and failed, already, primarily due to school/kids issues. The sun will rise really, really late in the dead of winter in some places. Sleep experts are all pretty much in agreement that permanent Standard Time is better. I’d be all for permanent Standard Time but there’s no way that’ll h…

As a night owl who sleeps late, I'm stoked to not waste morning daylight while I'm sleeping, and have more time in the evening to go out and do shit before it gets dark.

        I don't really care how time is reckoned so long as there is some
        agreement about it, but I object to being told that I am saving
        daylight when my reason tells me that I am doing nothing of the kind.
        I even object to the implication that I am wasting something
        valuable if I stay in bed after the sun has risen.  As an admirer
        of moonlight I resent the bossy insistence of those who want to
        reduce my time for enjoying it.  At the back of the Daylight Saving
        scheme I detect the bony, blue-fingered hand of Puritanism, eager
        to push people into bed earlier, and get them up earlier, to make
        them healthy, wealthy and wise in spite of themselves.
        
         -- Robertson Davies, The diary of Samuel Marchbanks,
                Clarke, Irwin (1947), XIX, Sunday

Post by throw0101d » Wed, Jul 15, 2026, 5:45 PM UTC

etrautmann wrote: post #51

BeetleB wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Studies also show that permanent standard time is better than permanent daylight time. But for some reason, the US wants to go against the rest of the world on this.

For what reasons is it better? I’d rather have the evening light than the first 20 minutes when I get up.

Post by kccoder » Wed, Jul 15, 2026, 7:57 PM UTC

alistairSH wrote: post #47

WarmWash wrote: post #33

Permanent standard time means less sunlight time after work. Permanent DST means kids walking to school in the dark. Changing the clock twice a year fixes that and lets us avoid both, with the only cost being people complaining for a day afterwards. It's like ripping off the bandaid, instead of doing a slow agonizing pull that lasts months. And yes, I know some people take like 6 weeks to adjust and they will complai…

Pretty sure there are studies that indicate the time shift is actually harmful - more car accidents, more heart attacks, all sorts of things. Really, the question is which system (standard, DST, or both) causes the least damage? Also worth noting we tried permanent DST a few decades ago and it was repealed within a year because people didn't like it. Approval in advance was north of 70% and in the aftermath below 40%…