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US House of Representatives takes step to make daylight saving time permanent

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Re: US House of Representatives takes step to make daylight saving time permanent

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Am I the only person who thinks its odd that my government (US) thinks its can tell me what time to get up and go to bed? Before timezones, "noon" was the point where the sun was the highest in the sky. It seems we should focus on having our timezones be more in line with what "noon" is supposed to be: IE, major population centers should have "noon" close to true noon, with a little more flexibility for rural areas s…

Or have a universal clock. But have regional start times. 9-5 makes no sense.

Re: US House of Representatives takes step to make daylight saving time permanent

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Perhaps worth noting that most medical and sleep/circadian research folks want permanent standard time: * https://www.ama-assn.org/press-center/press-releases/ama-cal... * https://www.labmanager.com/new-position-statement-supports-p... * http://www.chronobiology.ch/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/JBR-D... * https://www.chronobiology.com/impact-daylight-saving-time-ci... * https://esrs.eu/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/To_the_…

In the medium term wouldn't it likely not matter? Schedules will adjust to whatever permanent time system is adopted.

I doubt it. People seem to have a strong aversion to sleeping before sunset.

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Am I the only person who thinks its odd that my government (US) thinks its can tell me what time to get up and go to bed? Before timezones, "noon" was the point where the sun was the highest in the sky. It seems we should focus on having our timezones be more in line with what "noon" is supposed to be: IE, major population centers should have "noon" close to true noon, with a little more flexibility for rural areas s…

I also really like having 12pm being the moment the sun is at the highest point. But I think the whole point of that change is to simplify and this would go the other way.

Re: US House of Representatives takes step to make daylight saving time permanent

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Perhaps worth noting that most medical and sleep/circadian research folks want permanent standard time: * https://www.ama-assn.org/press-center/press-releases/ama-cal... * https://www.labmanager.com/new-position-statement-supports-p... * http://www.chronobiology.ch/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/JBR-D... * https://www.chronobiology.com/impact-daylight-saving-time-ci... * https://esrs.eu/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/To_the_…

I think that the gallup poll is flawed because it does not explain what daylight saving versus standard time is. I just spoke to an educated grad student, who thought that we were in standard time right now. Because the sun is out later during daylight saving time, the name is somewhat counter-intuitive. Also, because it’s on for most of the year, DST feels “standard.”

Re: US House of Representatives takes step to make daylight saving time permanent

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Perhaps worth noting that most medical and sleep/circadian research folks want permanent standard time: * https://www.ama-assn.org/press-center/press-releases/ama-cal... * https://www.labmanager.com/new-position-statement-supports-p... * http://www.chronobiology.ch/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/JBR-D... * https://www.chronobiology.com/impact-daylight-saving-time-ci... * https://esrs.eu/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/To_the_…

In the medium term wouldn't it likely not matter? Schedules will adjust to whatever permanent time system is adopted.

It does depending what you do. For example, I'd rather have more sunlight available after my work day ends.

But someone say working physical, outdoor job might prefer to have more sunlight early on.

Or vice versa, have less of their work day in the afternoon heat peak

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Am I the only person who thinks its odd that my government (US) thinks its can tell me what time to get up and go to bed? Before timezones, "noon" was the point where the sun was the highest in the sky. It seems we should focus on having our timezones be more in line with what "noon" is supposed to be: IE, major population centers should have "noon" close to true noon, with a little more flexibility for rural areas s…

that became an issue with the introduction of trains and their schedule.

how do you think this would work today with our interconnected world? we absolutely need standardized times or everything falls apart.

Re: US House of Representatives takes step to make daylight saving time permanent

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Am I the only person who thinks its odd that my government (US) thinks its can tell me what time to get up and go to bed? Before timezones, "noon" was the point where the sun was the highest in the sky. It seems we should focus on having our timezones be more in line with what "noon" is supposed to be: IE, major population centers should have "noon" close to true noon, with a little more flexibility for rural areas s…

Okay, so you travel from, say, Washington DC to NYC and then you have to set your clock back by... I think it's like 13 minutes?

Which is why railroads started instituting time zones in the late 19th century: because it turns out having to recalibrate your watch every hour or so is a recipe for creating train crashes. Railroad time didn't become standard time until the early 20th century, in large part because a lot of the smaller cities were pretty irate at having to adjust their clocks. (It also doesn't help that coincidentally, places like Chicago and New York City are very near the center meridian of their time zone).

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