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Germany maybe found a new source of renewable energy

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Re: Germany maybe found a new source of renewable energy

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But they were cancelled for similar reasons based on fears fueled by Russian propaganda.

So the Fukushima disaster and US polluted ground water are Russian propaganda for you?

Cumulative radioactivity emitted by German coal as a result of the ban on nuclear is likely higher than the amount of radioactivity spread by the Fukushima disaster. We can also add lung issues and other pollution of the environment caused by soot.

Re: Germany maybe found a new source of renewable energy

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Opening survival north stream single pipe for Russian gas is no brain solution. Europe break records importing relabeled Russian gas last month anyway

No brain because there is lack of survival instincts in such phrase?

Russia openly declares willingness to destroy europe, your lifestyle, way of thinking etc. They claim they are better. Sure , sponsoring this country is no brainer lol.

Germany already financed biggest war in europe since WWII by flooding russia with oil money. Is that not enough?

Amount of money EU spent to tame the fire of war could easily cover building 20-30 nuclear plants across the europe to solve the heat/cooling problem once and forever.

Re: Germany maybe found a new source of renewable energy

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The no brain solution is to electrify everything and switch legacy infrastructure to renewables, just like China does. Gas usage is down in the EU anyway.

China still uses a massive amount of coal, and has a lot of southern idle land. Germany has been doing what you say for the last 15 years, it didn't seem to work out so well.

China's really big. Australia is advancing faster per capita due to having less capita. Can we be Australia?

Re: Germany maybe found a new source of renewable energy

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But they were cancelled for similar reasons based on fears fueled by Russian propaganda.

So the Fukushima disaster and US polluted ground water are Russian propaganda for you?

The inherrent dangers of nuclear energy stem from flawed actors admimistrating something which carries manageable and often avoidable risks.

Fracking as a process carries inherrent unavoidable risk.

Re: Germany maybe found a new source of renewable energy

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I have always wondered about the origins of the anti nuclear opinion of Germans. It has Cold War origins to be sure, but what kind? I suspect American intelligence has been supporting the anti nuclear movement for some time, for non-proliferation reasons - and not just in Germany. I certainly would be, if I ran the State Department.

Once I had a discussion with a German that is a strong supporter of the green party and his argument against nuclear power was the nuclear waste and no proper was of disposing it and also building new nuclear power plants are expensive and take a long time.

Then I did a deep research and created a PDF and pointed out that there has been many advances of re-using spent-nuclear fuel and minimize the environmental impact since 1980s and also countries like China has been using a cleaver way of using a standardized model of building power plants to cut cost, etc. but he didn't want to accept it as if he was almost brainwashed.

Re: Germany maybe found a new source of renewable energy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The no brain solution is to electrify everything and switch legacy infrastructure to renewables, just like China does. Gas usage is down in the EU anyway.

Long-term, that's the smart and also necessary move. But it can't be done overnight, and the transition has its significant challenges. I hope they don't mess it up it and will address these problems rationally - but given how most EU leaders have acted over these past few years, I remain painfully unconvinced that they will.

Isn't solar the fastest energy source to spin up? Just take them out of the crate, put them on racks, tie them to the grid.

Re: Germany maybe found a new source of renewable energy

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I have always wondered about the origins of the anti nuclear opinion of Germans. It has Cold War origins to be sure, but what kind? I suspect American intelligence has been supporting the anti nuclear movement for some time, for non-proliferation reasons - and not just in Germany. I certainly would be, if I ran the State Department.

I'm sure Russians had something to do with it too. Makes sure Germany will not develop nukes and they'll keep buying oil and gas.

Re: Germany maybe found a new source of renewable energy

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I have always wondered about the origins of the anti nuclear opinion of Germans. It has Cold War origins to be sure, but what kind? I suspect American intelligence has been supporting the anti nuclear movement for some time, for non-proliferation reasons - and not just in Germany. I certainly would be, if I ran the State Department.

Just follow the gas pipelines...

Re: Germany maybe found a new source of renewable energy

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Hopefully Germany doesn't ban geothermal like they did with nuclear and fracking

Putting nuclear and fracking on the same level is wild.

Why? Nuclear has extremely serious, but very rare accidents, while fracking has less serious (as in, fewer people affected) accidents more frequently. I would say if you even it out, they're comparable...

Re: Germany maybe found a new source of renewable energy

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I have always wondered about the origins of the anti nuclear opinion of Germans. It has Cold War origins to be sure, but what kind? I suspect American intelligence has been supporting the anti nuclear movement for some time, for non-proliferation reasons - and not just in Germany. I certainly would be, if I ran the State Department.

Once I had a discussion with a German that is a strong supporter of the green party and his argument against nuclear power was the nuclear waste and no proper was of disposing it and also building new nuclear power plants are expensive and take a long time. Then I did a deep research and created a PDF and pointed out that there has been many advances of re-using spent-nuclear fuel and minimize the environmental impac…

So we just have to build the first expensive 20 to get the experience and then we reap the rewards after 40 years when we need the knowledge again?

If nuclear would be cheap in the western world I'd be all for it but we just can't do large projects in our ccurrent system.

Solar + wind + battery is much less of an headache.

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