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Show HN: Make senders work to get into your inbox

#1
Hi HN :) really excited to share this with you.

The one thing AI reliably does is generate noise. Half the tools I see launch are just machines for producing more noise across more channels. And people are starting to see this in the form of emails in their inboxes as spam filters are struggling.

There used to be a useful signal in email: the effort a sender put into customizing a message was a rough proxy for how relevant it actually was. AI killed that. Now it's customized slop with the appearance of effort with none of the cost. It is painful that the open internet / open channels have been abused like this.

Captchainbox applies the idea of proof-of-work to email. If a sender is willing to do a bit of work to reach you, the message is more likely to be worth your time and the sender more likely to be real. The work is a traditional captcha. You can also set a pay-to-deliver amount if you want more friction. The proceeds of the delivery payment after transaction costs go to the Internet Archive and the EFF. The tool currently works by authing with your Gmail or Outlook and during launch time I make this completely free as a lifetime deal (with optional payment if you wanna support).

How it works: Captchainbox builds a whitelist automatically from the metadata of your past correspondence. If you've emailed an individual address, that sender can reach you. If you talk to several people at the same domain, we whitelist the whole domain. If one transactional-looking sender has sent you more than 10 emails, we treat it as a transactional domain and let it through. This whitelist is for you to change whenever you want. It continues to build organically as you converse with more addresses.

Incoming mail is checked against that whitelist. Senders already on it land in your inbox as normal. Anyone else gets archived (never deleted) and is sent a challenge. This can be the captcha or the payment link. Once they solve it, their email is pulled out of the archive and put back into your inbox.

if you want to see what this looks like from a sender's point of view, send me an email here: doerpfelix15@gmail.com

The service only ever reads metadata, never message content. And since nothing is ever deleted, you can't lose a message. There is a legitimate risk / downside: if you sign up to a new service, these emails also land in the archive. Since we do not process the content, a first-time sender who can't solve the challenge (say an automated activation email) will sit in your archive until you spot it.

Happy to answer anything! :)

Show HN: Make senders work to get into your inbox
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Re: Show HN: Make senders work to get into your inbox

#3
This mostly assumes that the only one benefiting from the email exchange in the sender. If that's the case, just close your email account.

A few years ago I emailed a local freelancer I'd met in person, because I had a client asking for coding (which was more his bag than mine). I got an automated response that he was using something like this, with a link to some third party service to fill out a form and click a captcha if I wanted him to see my email.

Why would I? I just told the client sorry, I don't know anyone.

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post #3

This mostly assumes that the only one benefiting from the email exchange in the sender. If that's the case, just close your email account. A few years ago I emailed a local freelancer I'd met in person, because I had a client asking for coding (which was more his bag than mine). I got an automated response that he was using something like this, with a link to some third party service to fill out a form and click a ca…

valid point. I feel for many people the amount of inbound is just not bearable anymore with ai. Yet these people cannot close their account, either. This is basically an idea to increase the inbound friction for exactly these people.

do you have a take on how one could upp the relevancy of emails so that people can actually manage their inbound? Or any other open channel that is getting flooded, for that matter?

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#7

It feels like a better pricing model (if you believe in your product) would be to give it away to consumers, but take a small portion of each payment when non-trusted senders validate.

also very valid. Currently updating this to a pay-what-you-want lifetime purchase, where 0 is also a valid price?

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#8
I kinda like the thought but wouldn't a simple action that sends email to the archive list for all senders that aren't on your contact list handle this? That's what I do with my phone, actually, and I might consider it for email too. Then you can manually check your archive when you have free time.

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#9
I built this for my company email, but instead of sending captchas it puts non-customer emails into a folder that I never read. Emails from customers and contacts get into my inbox, and get labeled based on their support subscription level.

Most tech companies I've seen gate and filter customer support on web not email, then only sales and external interfacing employees need external emails and the bigger problem is phishing not spam.

For my personal email I would never use this, because I myself would never solve a captcha to reach someone's inbox and I can't expect different from others.

Re: Show HN: Make senders work to get into your inbox

#10
post #8

I kinda like the thought but wouldn't a simple action that sends email to the archive list for all senders that aren't on your contact list handle this? That's what I do with my phone, actually, and I might consider it for email too. Then you can manually check your archive when you have free time.

this could also be an option, yes!
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