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I tricked Claude into leaking your deepest, darkest secrets

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Re: I tricked Claude into leaking your deepest, darkest secrets

#181

Hello? What model is was used?? The fact that ‘Claude’ is used instead of any hard model really puts this article in serious doubt…

What's a hard model?

Actually saying the name of the model in use? Like Opus 4.8, Sonnet 5, Fable 5, Haiku? So many models and it’s just so pointless if you don’t know which is which

Re: I tricked Claude into leaking your deepest, darkest secrets

#183
post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He should clarify that "most" can be easily replaced by "all" as it was determined by statistical pool of whopping 1 person - himself. And also clarify that it's all lie. He just want to tell the anonymous crowd "look, I'm better than you".

You should also clarify that you pulled your statements out of your butt to look edgy. Everyone in every team I worked for the last ten years use docker. Docker is old tech. If you and your cavemen devs ignore what it is, that's your problem.

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Re: I tricked Claude into leaking your deepest, darkest secrets

#184

Doesn’t surprise me. Yesterday I learned that people run AI agents on their system with full admin rights. No containerisation or anything. Wild. Like we forgot 50 years of computer security overnight.

Security, what security? Linux is a solution for 50 year old problem, not for today's desktop. Once upon a time where sharing binaries (or even distributing binaries) sounded like a good idea. The vice continues though.

Re: I tricked Claude into leaking your deepest, darkest secrets

#185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

not the same thing. Containerization prevents devUser from accessing your machine root with its root. By containerizing, if devUser tries to sudo or su and gets a root, it will only be their root and not your root. Read up on cgroups.

Successful sudo from a cgroup still makes you root on the machine. What you want for this is user namespaces, not (just) cgroups.

yes, you would setup namespace and unshare it once mounted to isolate the sandbox so root only sees the sandbox / and not your /

Re: I tricked Claude into leaking your deepest, darkest secrets

#186
This is arguable a feature.

I made a prototype where AI automatically fills in the checkout basket for an amusement park. I found that ChatGPT tells how many adults, how many kids, what date suits you.

There are quite some security concerns, but fully banning AI from filling in query parameters with relevant user data is not the solution. This is also why I think Claude didnt give the bounty. Their solution would likely be a combination of trusted domain allow list and better security model that protects user agent.

Re: I tricked Claude into leaking your deepest, darkest secrets

#188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

not the same thing. Containerization prevents devUser from accessing your machine root with its root. By containerizing, if devUser tries to sudo or su and gets a root, it will only be their root and not your root. Read up on cgroups.

Why would you allow devUser sudo?

normally you wouldn't but there are some instances where a script or something requires sudo in which case you would need to namespace the cgroup and do a little more work to prevent escaping the sandbox. I can think of a few cases where sudo is required for cgroups/containers from the sandbox side so it can install services and things but ideally you would isolate everything to the devUser UID or GID.

Re: I tricked Claude into leaking your deepest, darkest secrets

#189
Thanks for the info. This is very scary shit. If a real person gave up these secrets they would lose their job. But the AI basically gets a patch and keeps on going, not even a slap on the wrist. A major lesson learned here would be minimize what you reveal to these models. And I must say I am fully guilty of this myself, so I probably need to change the way I operate.

Re: I tricked Claude into leaking your deepest, darkest secrets

#190

Doesn’t surprise me. Yesterday I learned that people run AI agents on their system with full admin rights. No containerisation or anything. Wild. Like we forgot 50 years of computer security overnight.

50 years of knowledge? That's probably for you. For the current and future generations, that 50 years knowledge is expected to be shoved into AI already.
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